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CWD, Tensas Parish, and Winter Quarters Hunting Club

Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:25 pm
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5033 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:25 pm
According to rumor and some news reports, all or nearly all of the deer in Tensas Parish found positive for cwd are linked to Winter Quarters.
The question is did this hunting club bring in pen raised deer with cwd? If so was approval sought and given by the LDWF and/or La Dept of Ag for the importation of pen raised deer? Who granted WQ permission to bring in deer from outside the state? Seems WQ members would be liable for bringing cwd into Louisiana.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:32 pm to
Is that behind the levee ?
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5033 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 6:38 pm to
I believe so.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2929 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Who granted WQ permission to bring in deer from outside the state? Seems WQ members would be liable for bringing cwd into Louisiana.

State has been in lock down for moving deer across state lines for several years now I want to say at least 7-10yrs just off the top my head.
If they were brought in it was on the down low and good luck on suing a bunch of rich guys. Nothing they love more than making the attorneys they have on retainer earn their keep.
Either way it was coming or was already here if Mississippi had it.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15577 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

If they were brought in it was on the down low and good luck on suing a bunch of rich guys. Nothing they love more than making the attorneys they have on retainer earn their keep


End of thread, haha.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Either way it was coming or was already here if Mississippi had it.


I think it’s been here and all over for a while
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
2929 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:44 pm to
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I think it’s been here and all over for a while

With up to a 2yr incubation period some portions of the state will be immune to it and never see it!!!
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2285 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:54 pm to
A detailed DNA analysis of the suspect deer would determine whether or not they were native to the immediate area.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13875 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:11 pm to
Evidently it don’t matter since LDWF gets to manage the issue from now on.
Posted by fishbig
Member since Feb 2007
1585 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:35 pm to
They don’t bring in deer. Most of the place floods anyway when water gets high.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:31 pm to
Why would you bring in deer if you don’t have a high fence?

I don’t believe they brought in/introduced genetics at Winter Quarters, but I do believe there is a reason these positive numbers are so concentrated in that one club. That rumor just hasn’t been mentioned here yet.

Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22675 posts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:16 pm to
Winter quarters doesn’t need to bring in deer. They have real nice big deer that come and go with the height of the river.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1749 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 6:50 am to
By that logic, why would you do any deer, habitat mgt at all, with no fence?
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:05 am to
quote:

By that logic, why would you do any deer, habitat mgt at all, with no fence?


There’s a difference between deer herd and habitat management and bringing in some impregnated does from a Texas deer farm.

Would you bring in $100k worth of deer from Texas without a high fence that any coonass or redneck out spotlighting would shoot?

Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1749 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:25 am to
Would I? Of course not. But I’m in the apparent minority of deer hunters that knows there’s nothing a hunter can do to impact genetics of a free range herd.

If someone thinks they can impact the local deer herd’s genetics and they have the $, I can definitely see this being done. Moreover, Reading between the lines, WQ has had the reputation of being overpopulated. These are precisely the places where old-timers blame genetics. I don’t know that it happened, just that it wouldn’t surprise me.

I’ve heard rumors of importation of deer to free range places for decades. I believe it’s happened. MDWFP commissioned a years-long study at MSU because lower coastal plain hunters were petitioning to have Delta deer imported.
This post was edited on 4/22/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19266 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 9:44 am to
Winter Quarters is inside the levee and floods every year or every other, why would you bring in deer that will leave your property.

They say most come back but I doubt deer that weren't born and raised in the area would have the instinct to return.

Just my 2 cents

Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19434 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 5:29 pm to
No.

It would have been a monumental waste of money and time. Can’t tell you how many WQ deer we killed on an adjoining section of the levee years ago
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 7:35 pm to
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No. It would have been a monumental waste of money and time. Can’t tell you how many WQ deer we killed on an adjoining section of the levee years ago


What’s your guess to the concentration of cases on WQ?
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 4/22/23 at 11:00 pm to
I can say with a high level of certainty that no deer were brought into or onto WQ. CWD being an issue is only bc of having a biologist on top of things, investing in producing big deer and working with LDWF. Any one that doesn’t have it on them up in the down the river in that area just doesn’t know they have it yet
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1065 posts
Posted on 4/23/23 at 6:54 am to
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What’s your guess to the concentration of cases on WQ?


Based on memory. Something like 25% of the samples WQ were positive. I don’t think all of those were from symptomatic deer.

With the number of samples taken statewide last year and 0 other positives (that I’m aware of), that pretty much destroys the “it’s everywhere” argument.
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