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Cotton farmers of the OB, have some questions
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:38 pm
With out getting too long winded on why I am asking. How lucrative is a roughly 2500 acre operation on what would probably be considered marginal/average ground, south central MS.
To play it safe let's say it's all rented, 2 yrs cotton one year peanut rotation. I know prices have been all over from in the dumps to record highs in the past 5 years or so. Let's say on a average year for price and yield.
2.2 bales an acre at 1065lb average.
To play it safe let's say it's all rented, 2 yrs cotton one year peanut rotation. I know prices have been all over from in the dumps to record highs in the past 5 years or so. Let's say on a average year for price and yield.
2.2 bales an acre at 1065lb average.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 11:49 pm
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:31 pm to GREENHEAD22
Not lucrative at all if you’re renting land on average ground
A good way to barely make equipment payments if you’re lucky and then begin stressing about next year. Do not recommend
A good way to barely make equipment payments if you’re lucky and then begin stressing about next year. Do not recommend
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:33 pm to texag7
After looking at the USDA number it is above average for the state so better ground than I was assuming. 2 bale and acre average is good just about anywhere.
It is not all rented land, just assuming that to play it conservative.
I know the operation as a whole makes money but the row crop is just one part, I have an idea what the rest makes just not the row crop.
It is not all rented land, just assuming that to play it conservative.
I know the operation as a whole makes money but the row crop is just one part, I have an idea what the rest makes just not the row crop.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:57 am to GREENHEAD22
Lucrative is a term not usually associated with operating a farm.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:49 am to GREENHEAD22
Such a loaded question. Jumping in with no equipment and having to purchase/lease everything day 1? What kind of rental terms? Dryland or irrigated? Yeah 2.2 bale average is solid, but if it doesn’t rain for 65 days and it’s the hottest summer in decades, then it rains 20 inches in two weeks when bolls are all opening up, you won’t make half that and will lose your arse and set you back years even after you did everything right…
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:02 am to GREENHEAD22
No. 
Tenant farming fkn sucks. All of it does unless you’re wealthy.
Tenant farming fkn sucks. All of it does unless you’re wealthy. This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 6:05 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:25 am to bigolecatfish
This is an existing operation, turnkey, just trying to ballpark what the row crop generates net wise. If he is grossing 2.5M what is net, inputs are what I don't know.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:27 am to deltafarmer
I wouldn't go that far, big delta operations that own all the land they work make out alright. Granted these are multi generational farms that own the land out right.
But yes in general a complete tenant operation is hard to make it on.
But yes in general a complete tenant operation is hard to make it on.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 7:29 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:53 am to GREENHEAD22
I don’t know anything about cotton, but have been around enough other types of business and ag deals to know that the details are what hurt. Good luck
Posted on 9/28/22 at 3:11 pm to GREENHEAD22
depends what row crops are being farmed. What is being farmed as far as row crops?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 4:33 pm to GREENHEAD22
2.2 bales ain’t getting you far
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:13 pm to jpcajun
75% cotton/peanuts the rest beans.
As far as the 2.2, the 1065 per acre was above average for the state.
As far as the 2.2, the 1065 per acre was above average for the state.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:15 pm to GREENHEAD22
If the farm is paying land and equipment costs on top of inputs, labor, insurance and other overhead, the expenses are going to eat up most, all or more than that gross. Two bales an acre would ring the bell 10 years ago. Now it takes substantially more than that for a typical cotton farm. Without land and equipment costs it’s a different situation altogether
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:25 pm to deltafarmer
It keeps being said that 2 bales, or 1065lbs an acre isn't going to make money but it is above average yield for the whole state of MS with the only counties toppings the prime delta counties.
Just pointing that out.
It is a long running operation, a new picker but most other equipment isn't new nor necessarily very old.
Just pointing that out.
It is a long running operation, a new picker but most other equipment isn't new nor necessarily very old.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:14 pm to GREENHEAD22
Your original question is very difficult to answer. All farms are different. Its all about getting maximum production with minimum costs. I would suggest you spend some time looking at MS State’s ag website. There will be a lot of economic information there for a typical delta cotton farm.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:20 pm to deltafarmer
I guess I should have done just input cost, yes I know that can vary dramatically as well but there has to be a min input cost that can be ballparked.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:09 pm to GREENHEAD22
Crystal Springs area?
I’m not sure I’d want my livelihood to depend on marginal ground in Copiah County.
I’m not sure I’d want my livelihood to depend on marginal ground in Copiah County.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:50 pm to Tear It Up
East a county or two.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:33 pm to GREENHEAD22
So you’re thinking of taking over the tenant’s operation on leased ground?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:54 pm to White Bear
Not quite, but something similar possibly. Partnership but there is more than just row crop. Just thinking and evaluating not actually pursuing it.
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