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re: Copperhead Snake Birthing Season Is Here

Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:10 pm to
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if you are gonna get bit by a venomous snake copperhead is way better than coral, rattler(especially canebrake) or moccasin of course if I have to get bit by a venomous snake please let it be a pigmy rattler


I think youre right. My lab got bitten by a Western Diamnondback 3 years ago during dove season...she gets the immunizations and it didn't cause her any problems, just some slight swelling on her left front shoulder where it hit her....bet it scared the shite out of her LOL...she didn't frick with them much after that LOL. My vet told me she would've probably had about the same reaction without the immunization, after he had sold me on the idea to the tune of about $180! Better safe than sorry.

One of my buddies that was with us when it happens has some FINE GSHs and the get bit all the time....he said it was lucky it was a full grown snake...it was about 4 foot long but fat like a water moccasin...because it probably only bit her and didn't inject any or very little venom....he said his dogs react very differently when bitten by juveniles because they inject to kill where a mature one knows how taxing that is on their own survival and will only inject enough to disable / eat its victim or scare it off if it knows it can't eat it...obviously the snake knew the dog was to big to eat so there may be some truth in that.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:17 pm to
On the subject of snakes and dogs I know a guy who has a long haired daschund. That thing can not tolerate a snake and will kill any and all of them LOL....I have personally seen that little bastard attack and kill a western diamondback 5 feet long and as thick as your forearm....that little dog is like a mongoose...gets snake bit constantly and does not even swell up or mind a bit...this guy lives on about 1200 acres and the place is alive with rattlers...that dog won't let one near the house...will act like a maniac when he is indoors and knows there is a snake in the yard...if that dog was as big as my lab it would have to be put down 'cause I have no doubt man would be on the list of shite it would hunt, kill and eat....all heart and a killing machine LOL...the little bastard is also blue bloody murder on racoons and badgers...desert racoons are pretty small but a badger is meaner than hell....the dog often looks like he has been in a battle when has taken on a badger....but he will take 'em on and take 'em down LOL....
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2875 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:45 pm to
Any snake, with a chartreuse tail, dies a quick and violent death in my world.

All you baws who always wondered why a chartreuse-tailed Zoom, Mr, twister or Trick worm works so well.....now you know.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2568 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:53 pm to
They work because the chartreuse replicates the the color of a sunfish’s fins?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:38 pm to
Thanks for reminding me, almost stepped on a baby copperhead two weeks ago. I was wondering how many others there were left
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:46 pm to
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Any snake, with a chartreuse tail, dies a quick and violent death in my world. All you baws who always wondered why a chartreuse-tailed Zoom, Mr, twister or Trick worm works so well.....now you know.


If it is chartreuse it either needs killing or needs to be on a hook for bait! In freshwater and on land anyway....there are some chartreuse critters in the ocean that don't need killing and who don't make great bait but generally speaking chartreuse needs killing or hooking and chunking!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15295 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 5:55 pm to
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Copperhead Snake Birthing Season Is Here


Where did you get the photo? And if you took it how did you get them to pose? I don't see any blood.
Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:18 pm to
An old timer once ask me where I lived. When I told him he said, “you mean stinger ridge”. He said my place was known for the copperheads. For years would kill 5 or 6 a year. Kind of reduced their numbers after many years. Always looking and never go out at night without shoes and good light. Keep shovel or I-hoe available. Still have to warn wife to the same. Copperheads like dry high ground. That I have. Have seen babies on concrete porch and edge of trees. Rat snakes, king snakes and armadillos are your friends.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:39 pm to
Neighbor's brother was helping him load some old cypress boards. Had reach in to gave a board and came out with a copperhead on his finger. That like to kill him. Spent almost two weeks in the hospital.

Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2568 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:17 pm to
Well, he was almost the 7th person to die in the last 60 years. The fatality rate is 0.01% of bitten victims. That doesn’t mean they aren’t dangerous though.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2875 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:54 pm to
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They work because the chartreuse replicates the the color of a sunfish’s fins?


Regarding cranks, spinnerbait/chatterbaits, etc....YES

When shaped like this...not so much

Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2568 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:07 pm to
It’s definitely not supposed to be a baby copperhead/cottonmouth
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6823 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:19 pm to
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If treated w/ antivenom, the insurance company may not pay for it.


Insurance companies aren't necessarily an evil entity; they're clearly a vital cog in our health care system. OTOH, they frequently deny payment to MD's and hospitals for services rendered in good faith. It's not unheard of for an insurance company to deny payment for anti-venin (a very expensive pharmaceutical) for a copperhead bite. Why do they refuse? Who knows since they don't have to cite a reason. The hospital may ultimately win after multiple appeals but will spend a lot of time and resources doing so. You're correct that copperhead venom is generally not as deadly as other venomous snakes and rarely fatal. Nevertheless, there are still significant potential non-fatal complications for the victim.
Posted by yattan
Member since Nov 2013
897 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:21 am to
Because of their camouflage, copperhead’s “sting” more people than any other snake. I have looked right at them and did not see them. Most people sit on them or stand on them and get bitten. I once had a long walk out of the woods back to the truck and sat down to rest a few minutes. Looked to my back side and saw a copperhead coming right at me. Usually I leave snakes alone when working. (Get case of the Heebie Jeebies if you frick with snakes). But this time I wanted to dispense. I picked up a stick and smashed the copperhead. He made it to a flute of an elem tree and curled up. So I was gonna smash his head into the ground. When I pushed on the stick, the stick broke. I fell with my shoulder catching me against the tree. I was looking eye to eye with the copperhead about two feet away. I raised up and got the frick out of there. Continued my policy of not frocking with snakes after that. Have plenty of good snakes tales.


Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2875 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:08 am to
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It’s definitely not supposed to be a baby copperhead/cottonmouth


Whatever you say Aquaman
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6823 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 12:31 pm to
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I was looking eye to eye with the copperhead about two feet away.

THx for a hearty laugh today! I needed it.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30320 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:49 pm to
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.that's what happened to this old boy and he almost died from the after effects....and spent $80K in the process.


Same type story, a guy I know kicked his work boots off at the back door and went inside. Next morning, put his boot and and there was something in it. Pulled his foot out, stuck his hand in a copperhead bit him.

No insurance and cost his arse almost $100k and that was 10 years ago.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:05 pm to
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he said his dogs react very differently when bitten by juveniles because they inject to kill where a mature one knows how taxing that is on their own survival and will only inject enough to disable / eat its victim or scare it off if it knows it can't eat it...obviously the snake knew the dog was to big to eat so there may be some truth in that.


This old wives tale needs to die. Big snake = more venom.

No scientific evidence of juveniles "not being able to control" their output.

Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21617 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:51 am to
I've only seen one on my property in the 12 years I've been there. It was a small one and in the mouth of a king snake. Beautiful day that was.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30785 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:07 am to
an ill timed article like this caused the death of about a 100 dekay's snakes in my neighborhood a few years ago.... one guy went door to door telling people go look in their bushes and gardens because he killed a dozen baby copperheads in his yard that morning....

he came to me showing me them he had quite a few in a bucket - i reached down and grabbed one he dropped the bucket and screamed like a girl when one landed on his foot,... i said "man their aint a copperhead in this bunch"... "these are all dekay's snakes.... completely harmless.....

but he never went back and told ANy of the others that he was wrong..
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