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re: Compact 9MM for CC?

Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:16 pm to
save up and get glock 43 or 48
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28595 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:39 pm to
Glock 43!
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:42 pm to
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If you’re talking about Canik for cc, I think only the TP9 Elite is small enough and it’s closer to $400. I have the TP9SF (got it for $300 pre-tax, ffl, etc) and I love it, but it’s too big to cc.


They offer the TP9SF Elite SC which they classify as a sub compact and while it may technically be compact, it's still slightly larger than almost any of the major players out there (Shield, P365, Glock 43, etc...) but smaller than a Glock 19, 17 or standard Canik TP9SF.

However, just like with all Canik's it comes loaded with options and features that push all of the other major competitors into a price range WAY Beyond the Canik and you get that phenomenal Canik trigger right out the box...






If the OP is dead set on his price range, I'd go with the Shield 9.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 4:53 pm to
This will not be my main handgun which is why I am wanting to keep it around $300. My main gun is a Taurus PT92, but I don't know how comfortable it will be for CC. Being I travel across the country in my RV I wanted the CC just in case I get stopped by a LEO. The handgun I am looking for now is when we are either in the car or out walking. After doing a walk at the Clinton bridge in North Little Rock and getting go to hell looks from some people I want something to pack with me.

I am hoping I can find a local gun shop or range that has some of my list in stock to look at. I do like the Shield myself.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:45 pm to
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My main gun is a Taurus PT92, but I don't know how comfortable it will be for CC.


If you’re wanting to carry inside the waistband it probably won’t be. If you wear shirts untucked a lot and can carry outside the waistband you may as well carry your Taurus. If you want to carry IWB you’re on the right track looking for a single stack.

For driving the only thing that really works imo unless you want to gear up every time you stop is a cross draw holster. I got one for my Shield and I really like it. They’re sorta hard to find, though. I think I got a DM Bullard but I remember there weren’t a ton of options for cross draw when I was looking.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14038 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 6:10 pm to
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Have you thought about a Kahr CM9? I've got one with almost zero use that I like but I wouldn't mind parting with. I intended to carry daily and just can't comfortably in an office environment.


That's what I carry. Picked it up for $260. Kahr break in period is 200 rounds.

That or a shield would be my choice.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

This will not be my main handgun which is why I am wanting to keep it around $300. My main gun is a Taurus PT92, but I don't know how comfortable it will be for CC. Being I travel across the country in my RV I wanted the CC just in case I get stopped by a LEO. The handgun I am looking for now is when we are either in the car or out walking. After doing a walk at the Clinton bridge in North Little Rock and getting go to hell looks from some people I want something to pack with me.

I am hoping I can find a local gun shop or range that has some of my list in stock to look at. I do like the Shield myself.


With all that said, you can't go wrong with the Shield, in my opinion.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/17/20 at 6:53 pm to
Why are some Shield cheaper then others?
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 6:58 pm to
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Why are some Shield cheaper then others?


There's several different models.

Original Shield
Shield Mod 2.0 (2nd generation)
Shield with safety
Shield w/o safety
Shield with built in laser
Shield Competition Series

The cheapest is going to be the OG Shield. But even though it's a 1st Gen, it's still a highly regarded carry pistol.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6200 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:23 pm to
Shield EZ
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18717 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:43 pm to
You could go with the Canik TP9SF Elite SC and it's optics ready if you want that as a possiblity.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 7:47 pm to
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The cheapest is going to be the OG Shield. But even though it's a 1st Gen, it's still a highly regarded carry pistol.


I’m pretty sure they started introducing trigger improvements to the Shield that they ended up using in all the M&P 2.0. I did a Burwell trigger job on my 9 compact (1.0) and it made noticeable improvements. When I cracked into my Shield 1.0 to do the same, the seat already had the newer profile, pretty much a knock-off of the Apex sear. I got my son a Shield 2.0 and there’s not much difference between our triggers at all. There’s a little, but it’s nothing compared to shooting a full size 1.0. vs a 2.0.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:22 pm to
What is the trigger issue?
Posted by ConservativeBamaFan
Tuscaloosa Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
1247 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 8:36 pm to
For that budget the S&W Shield is the way to go.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 9:15 pm to
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Another for shield.


I love mine. I bought the performance center edition. Great CC gun.

The Performance Center edition has the upgraded trigger, thumb safety, and upgraded sites straight out the box.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 9:20 pm
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
19699 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:00 pm to
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What is the trigger issue?



The biggest complaint with the 1st Gen Shield was a gritty trigger with multiple "walls". But as someone mentioned above, they have made improvements to the 1st Gen and in comparison with the 2nd Gen there's almost no discernable difference.

One other complaint is the strength of the magazine springs. They're VERY stiff. Get yourself a Maglula magazine loader if you plan on doing a lot of range shooting.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16901 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:02 pm to
G48
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6811 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:24 pm to
From your list, I'd suggest a Shield. I have a Taurus G2c and like it (despite the hate Taurus normally gets on the OB), I don't like the small thumb safety for concealed carry. I carry mine outdoors when I'm hunting. If you can throw in an extra $50, i'd suggest you consider the Kahr CW9 or CM9. I like Kahr's but not everyone likes the DAO trigger that feels more like smooth DA revolver; it not a Glock/striker type trigger. The CM9 is probably the smallest production 9mm and can be carried in most pants pockets. I've also got a Canik TP9SF that I really like as a range gun. I'm not familiar w/ the SC model, but it looks good.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21687 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 10:33 pm to
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The biggest complaint with the 1st Gen Shield was a gritty trigger with multiple "walls".


This. It’s not a safety or reliably issue, just one of feel. I’d fired plenty of Glocks and I didn’t think it was bad at all. Striker fired weapons have a peculiar spongy feel if you’re used to double action/single action handguns and I think that put a lot of people off. I did the trigger job on my 9c mainly out of curiosity and I like to tinker, not because it was terrible. Just polishing all the contact surfaces with a Worksharp made it a lot smoother, but for a self defense handgun I just want it to go bang.
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
2011 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 2:15 am to
CZ Rami should be on your list
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