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Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:48 am to
It will absolutely not close with an empty mag, unless you activate the slide release lever. You can can jam an empty mag in as hard as you'd like and the slide will not close.

Many people have documented this auto forward, or automatic release, feature on HKs and no where have I found it related to a failure. Out of the box P30s, VP9s...
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
67768 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 8:59 am to
I've only ever had Glocks do this
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22771 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:12 pm to
I had a Chinese Tokarev that would do this, and it didn't require much force on insertion (if a mag was loaded it would close and chamber).

So far, this doesn't happen with the following other pistols I own:
CZ 75, Beretta 92, Sig P226, Hi Power, etc...
I could name a bunch of lesser known (and some not so lesser known) guns, and the result is the same. If the slide is locked back, inserting a mag will not drop the slide.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5895 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:24 pm to
My XDM does it depending how hard I put a new mag in. I don't do it intentionally but when it happens I get back on target just fine. Basically if it happens I don't care but I certainly don't practice reloading with the intention of doing it because it isn't repeatable.
Posted by Jj283
Houma
Member since May 2015
810 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:30 pm to
Just tried it on my Shield 9mm. Worked 1 out of 4 times of slamming the shite out of the mad when seating it.

Doesn't seem like it's very reliable, in my weapon at least.

Side note: gun has only fired about 100 rounds.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70896 posts
Posted on 5/6/17 at 2:34 pm to
In my M9 you have to be gentle with it for it to not slam shut. I thought that was how it was supposed to work. Might have worn out slide stop?
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12185 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:14 am to
quote:


This guy is correct. It all depends on the weapon.


True. It also depends on how worn the gun is. The SR9c I sold my friend had about 5k rounds through it and it will close the slide on a slam. Ms Bapple's VP9 will also do it, even when it was brand new.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the M&P full sized handguns. If I recall, the M&P was designed to close the slide when a loaded mag is slammed home. They added a small tab to the frame portion of the slide release on the 2.0 versions to prevent this because they got a lot of negative feedback about it.



Not sure if that addition to the gun has been tested extensively though.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12185 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Might have worn out slide stop?


Not necessarily. It's just a matter of physics sometimes.

My advice to people is to not depend on that slide going home on a slam but to learn to deal with it if it happens. If it closes, keep putting rounds on target. If the slide doesn't shut, hit the release or overhand rack it. Do whatever you have to do to get back in the fight ASAP.
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