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Coon
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Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I have a gatortail extreme 1854 hull center console with a gtr35 on the back. I don't get as much use out of it and would be more versatile for what i would like to use it for with an outboard (we have a camp in cocodrie, can pull my kids on tubes, fishing in local lakes).

I know i could sell the boat and motor together outright and get another hull but i really like the layout and have it setup like i want.

it's not "rated" for an outboard so i don't know exactly how that works. I assume i'd put a 90hp or 115hp or thereabouts. a GTR35 weighs 275lbs, a 90hp yamaha weight 353lbs.

Is this a bad idea (switching motors)? Are there any places to purchase a second hand outboard other than FB marketplace?


TheBoo
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
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GTR35 weighs 275lbs, a 90hp yamaha weight 353lbs.


Negatory on that one.


Coon
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
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Negatory on that one.


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TheBoo
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
Does the hull have a house power stamp? That's a huge difference in weight and torque. I'd make absolute sure the transom could take it safely.


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tke_swamprat
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I've seen many people do it. Some switch the motors out before and after hunting season.

A 70 Yamaha, 4 stroke weights 253.


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Cypressknee
Member since Jul 2017
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
Transom can take it. I have two friends with prodrive (yes different mfg) hulls, one has 90 merc other has 50 yam which both are on jackplates.

Not positive but don’t think those hulls have a hp rating.


Coon
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
They don’t have hp ratings. The hull is stamped “for commercial use”.


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gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
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Negatory on that one.


Got me curious just how much these motors weigh and sites show the 90 Yamaha weighs in a 362 lbs.


Motorboat
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
Call Gatortail. they will happily (for them annoyed) discuss it with you.


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KemoSabe65
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
4 stroke, I’m sure the 2 stroke in close to gt 35 in weight. The boats made in Springfield (gator track) show sd’s and ob’s on the same boats, not a problemo. I would weld a small piece of angle down the center to you can turn and not slide at higher speeds.
This post was edited on 4/29 at 3:23 pm


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PapaPogey
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I've been considering doing a swap myself, so interested in these responses


Homey the Clown
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
Just frickin send it, bud!


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bigbuckdj
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
You’ll want to consider the shaft length of whatever you put on there. The hunt deck motor mounts may put an outboard pretty deep. I think a 115 on an 1854 would be a nice setup.

This is a gator trax 1854 with a 115
Image: https://i.imgur.com/sTgKkj7.jpg


It looks like a beefier mount than the gator tail
Image: https://i.imgur.com/AD2Z3bt.jpg
This post was edited on 4/29 at 3:45 pm


Ruxins Rascals
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
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115hp


that thing would be a rocket ship


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PapaPogey
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I’ve never really dug into the specifics of it, but I was thinking a 60 Tohatsu or something.


bigbuckdj
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I don’t think it would be as fast as you think, flat boats aren’t very efficient hulls. The 115 would make pulling tubers much better.


PapaPogey
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Baton Rouge
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
I'm not pulling a tube, just fishing


bigbuckdj
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
My b I was thinking of the op


Coon
Nicholls St. Fan
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
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re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
Might have to put this idea on ice. $10.5k for a 70yammy, $11.5k for a 90. New.

What y’all think the market value is for a 35gtr with controls?


tke_swamprat
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Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
7098 posts

re: Changing out gatortail motor for outboard on gatortail extreme 1854 cc hull; thoughts?
That all depends on the hours, mods, etc. Brand new 40hp tiller is 10K. I almost went back to a GTR when I was looking for a boat. I decided I didn't want to noise and wanted something easy for the kids to drive. But I loved my two GTRs.


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