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Braid baitcaster question

Posted on 3/4/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 2:50 pm
I recently picked up a lews mach crush combo and got pretty comfortable using it with 12 lb mono. I just switched to 20 pound braid today and had two really bad birds nests. There is only about 1/4 of the spool filled up after the birds nests. Will only 1/4 of the spool hurt casting distance or should i just respool the whole thing?

Tia
This post was edited on 3/4/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Big_country346
Member since Jul 2013
3613 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 2:56 pm to
You can't untie a birdnest?


I'd respool anyway.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14768 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 2:58 pm to
Respool. A less than full spool needs to turn more to retrieve a set amount of line. The same applies for line going out. Your casting distance and retrieve speed suffers. It also affects your drag.

ETA: set the brakes as high as they’ll go and walk it back until you reach a comfortable setting.
This post was edited on 3/4/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 2:59 pm to
It would have taken awhile. It was bad. Ijust cut a shite load of it out.
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
1931 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 3:40 pm to
Respool,cast, put a piece of tape across line left so if you backlash it will only go so far into your spool. Makes it easier to untangle.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 3:45 pm to
Okay, so i respooled with 30 pound pp braid and it feels a lot better than the 20. The 20 seemed too thin. I didnt do the tape, but hopfully i wont back lash as bad with the thirty, fingers crossed. I'm really enjoying the baitcaster, wish i would have gotten one sooner.
Posted by animalcracker
Member since Oct 2010
1931 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 3:48 pm to
It isn't to late to add the tape just in case.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19272 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 3:52 pm to
I've been throwing bait casters for 30 years and have had some massive backlashes, the only ones I have never been able to get out are braid.

I stopped fishing it
Posted by jaydoubleyew
Downtown
Member since Oct 2011
726 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 3:53 pm to
Id imagine 20 and 30lb power pro would be tough on a baitcaster because it’s so thin. I like the 50lb because it’s still only 12lb diameter.
Posted by speckledawg
Somewhere Salty
Member since Nov 2016
3917 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 4:09 pm to
30lb minimum on baitcasters, preferably 50. It will dig bad if any smaller.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8606 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

I've been throwing bait casters for 30 years and have had some massive backlashes, the only ones I have never been able to get out are braid.

I stopped fishing it



yep
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 5:25 pm to
I used to back the braid with mono. Helps a little and is cheaper. Like some have said, you want that diameter of line as thick as possible to reduce spool rotation speed. Putting some mono (thicker) helps fill the spool with less yardage. Some say it helps stop the line from digging too, but not sure that's true since there's still a significant amount of braid spoiled on top itself.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26450 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 5:52 pm to
I put mono on first as well.
Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2667 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 5:55 pm to
Spool about 20 yards of mono first then tie a uni knot to the braid and spool the rest of the spool. You will thank me and bird nest won’t bite all the way down.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3133 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 7:08 pm to
Switched to braid a year ago and hate that shite.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

30lb minimum
I use 10 lb braid on my casting reels. I've read this digging thing on here multiple times and have never had it happen to me. I guess I'm just lucky.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 8:50 pm to
As others have said you have to make sure you’re not fishing too light of braid. 20lb power pro is the same diameter as 6lb mono. Anything less than 10lb mono is tough to throw on a baitcaster if there’s a little bit of wind or you forget to dial it back in after switching baits. There’s really no practical reason I can think of to use less than 30lb braid for bass.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12172 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:04 pm to
I've used pp exclusively since 2004. No backing. I can see how on older reels or lesser reels it could cause an issue, but with today's reel technology, I don't get these issues.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1458 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:09 pm to
I throw almost exclusively 30, with 50lb on my frogging rod. All power pro super slick. I’ve thrown 20 before but it tends to dig.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17316 posts
Posted on 3/4/18 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

I've used pp exclusively since 2004. No backing. I can see how on older reels or lesser reels it could cause an issue, but with today's reel technology, I don't get these issues.


What are you guys doing with 10lb braid on a baitcaster? I’m scratching my head here.
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