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re: Birdshot vs. Buckshot for Self-Defense
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:06 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 12/15/20 at 8:06 am to Lonnie Utah
quote:
I don't have a single sight line in my house that is over 30' much less 50'.
I have 2 actually. From the door of my bedroom, to the front door is right at 55’. From bedroom door the the kitchen is right at 50’.
50’ isn’t that far. Just over 16yds.
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Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
quote:
I don't think you have ever shot a firearm of any type.
You about to be challenged to a duel at Sonic
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:16 am to biglego
One of them be bringing buckshot ??
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:25 am to biglego
quote:What distance?
You about to be challenged to a duel at Sonic
Posted on 12/15/20 at 10:40 am to armsdealer
quote:
Really, a rifle is the best option for self defense, 30 rounds of bullets designed to kill men is probably what you should go with.
if we're being honest, its design to kill a man from close quarters to long range, and every thing in between. Also, collateral damage concerns on a battlefield are not the same as my 4 year old sleeping in the room next door.
so yeah, it'll do the job probably better than most, but there are issues with an AR as a home weapon.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:01 am to SportTiger1
quote:
but there are issues with an AR as a home weapon.
Name one gun that the same issue isn't a problem.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:05 am to bbvdd
quote:Birdshot
Name one gun that the same issue isn't a problem.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:52 am to bbvdd
quote:
Name one gun that the same issue isn't a problem.
9mm with Powerball 96 grain ammo
Posted on 12/15/20 at 11:57 am to X123F45
I have a red ryder that will absolutely shoot your eye out but will sometimes bounce off of a beer can, depending on where you hit it.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:20 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Birdshot
If you and Downshift meet at Sonic, I think he'll have an advantage with his 00.
But I'm thinking that someone who is as cunning and shrewd as you would still manage to do OK.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:29 pm to bbvdd
quote:
Name one gun that the same issue isn't a problem.
come on now. I can name a bunch that the problem is not as drastic. surely nobody on this board would argue that over penetration isnt more likely with a 5.56 or 300blk than it is #4 buck shot or 9mm
Posted on 12/15/20 at 12:39 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
Name one gun that the same issue isn't a problem.
Birdshot
Birdshot will easily penetrate multiple interior walls of a typical home, plenty of videos on YouTube demonstrating it.
This post was edited on 12/15/20 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:00 pm to SportTiger1
quote:
surely nobody on this board would argue that over penetration isnt more likely with a 5.56 or 300blk than it is #4 buck shot or 9mm
I would strongly.
Because 9mm or buckshot will penetrate way more walls that 5.56/.223.
Do your research...
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:27 pm to EA6B
quote:Here you go
Birdshot will easily penetrate multiple interior walls of a typical home, plenty of videos on YouTube demonstrating it.
quote:
But the shot did not even break into the second wall.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:33 pm to bbvdd
quote:
Because 9mm or buckshot will penetrate way more walls that 5.56/.223.
This is true
Posted on 12/15/20 at 1:54 pm to texag7
This guy used gell before the walls to simulate a human being hit first. I can't format, but the #4 buck stopped in the wall while the 00 passed through. The bird shot didn't leave the gel.
12GA 2-3/4" Shells 12” Ballistic Gel Interior Wall Exterior Wall
Remington #9 Target Loads Stopped In Gel N/A N/A
Remington 00 Buck Pass Through Pass Through Pass Through
Barnes Expander Slugs
Pass Through Pass Through Pass Through
Federal Premium #4 Buck Pass Through/Stopped In Gel Stopped in Wall N/A
12GA 2-3/4" Shells 12” Ballistic Gel Interior Wall Exterior Wall
Remington #9 Target Loads Stopped In Gel N/A N/A
Remington 00 Buck Pass Through Pass Through Pass Through
Barnes Expander Slugs
Pass Through Pass Through Pass Through
Federal Premium #4 Buck Pass Through/Stopped In Gel Stopped in Wall N/A
Posted on 12/15/20 at 4:41 pm to AlxTgr
Y'all may have seen this video, or one like it. Cut Shells
Bringing this to the Sonic would result in automatic disqualification.
Bringing this to the Sonic would result in automatic disqualification.
Posted on 12/15/20 at 9:06 pm to dawg23
Cut shells are awesome. I may have experimented with wax slugs and dabbled with some Elmer's glue slugs at some point.
Why?
Because why not.
Why?
Because why not.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 12:20 am to RoIITide
quote:
Cut shells are awesome. I may have experimented with wax slugs and dabbled with some Elmer's glue slugs at some point.
Why?
Because why not.
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