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Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:22 am to Riolobo
Yep. I'm sure that was the intent of the author. And to let the DWF know, "we waiting, ....."
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Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:08 pm to EF Hutton
I don’t think we have resident cougars.Just an occasional one passing through,usually a young male looking to establish a territory.
Black panthers are another story.It’s amazing how many people claim to have seen one.??
Black panthers are another story.It’s amazing how many people claim to have seen one.??
Posted on 3/7/22 at 12:48 am to LSUA 75
Yeah i don't believe or not believe. I don't doubt anything walking around out there.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 9:34 am to Marciano1
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Louisiana is one of the only states in the south that has 5 ungulate predators: hogs, bobcat, black bear, cougar, coyote.
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We have cougars in LA?
They're everywhere in Lafayette
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:19 am to LSUballs
Did yall see that boo hoo article that La Sportsman ran on this ?
The same whiney spoiled attitude i witnessed with the gill net ban in the 1990's
The same whiney spoiled attitude i witnessed with the gill net ban in the 1990's
Posted on 3/7/22 at 1:44 pm to EF Hutton
Posted on 3/7/22 at 3:25 pm to mrcoon
Well, i thought about how to answer you without exactly telling you how it is, which would cause many to break keyboards on their pc.
You ever watch westerns, say , Gunsmoke or a JW movie, where the whole town is lynch mobbed trying to get at a prisoner, who is safe in jail. The mob wants to hang him now, but the Marshall has a clear thinking head and does things the right way.
Thats what i see here. In time, when they see fit , the DWF will adjust.
Right now, the ONLY thing that article mentioned that has validity for concern, is the farmer's crop damage. That is a pressing issue. None of the other reasons have any validity.
You ever watch westerns, say , Gunsmoke or a JW movie, where the whole town is lynch mobbed trying to get at a prisoner, who is safe in jail. The mob wants to hang him now, but the Marshall has a clear thinking head and does things the right way.
Thats what i see here. In time, when they see fit , the DWF will adjust.
Right now, the ONLY thing that article mentioned that has validity for concern, is the farmer's crop damage. That is a pressing issue. None of the other reasons have any validity.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:49 pm to EF Hutton
The entire reason the Black Bear Recovery Plan was enacted was to get the black bear population high enough to be able to hunt them. We're there now in selected parishes.
Louisiana Black Bear Management Plan - LDWF, 2015
Louisiana Black Bear Management Plan - LDWF, 2015
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Harvest
If, in the future, federal protection is no longer warranted for the Louisiana black bear, bear harvests based on demographic monitoring data may be established with the approval of the LWFC. If harvests are implemented, they would be altered annually to reflect the previous year's subpopulation dynamics.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 4:57 pm to EF Hutton
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Right now, the ONLY thing that article mentioned that has validity for concern, is the farmer's crop damage.
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“I have just heard from so many farmers, hunters, landowners and other citizens who have had countless issues with personal property damage and crop damage caused by the growing number of bears,” Sen. Cathey said. “The bears have become a real nuisance and have turned into a safety issue on both sides. It’s getting so a lot of fathers and grandfathers don’t feel safe taking their children and grandchildren in the woods because of encounters with bears. We already face enough challenges passing the legacy of hunting and enjoying the outdoors to our youth. Bears have no natural predators in Louisiana and they have little fear of human contact. They are growing in size and numbers. It’s not a healthy situation.
Do I need to spell this out for you (again) or do you get it now?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:04 pm to deeprig9
No, the only valid factor is farmer crop damage. Perhaps if you separate your points into catagories, and we discuss each separately, you may see the light.
Remember, thats the same outfit that raced to put Chris Courville on front page news, only to get egg in face later, when he was caught.
Remember, thats the same outfit that raced to put Chris Courville on front page news, only to get egg in face later, when he was caught.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:15 pm to EF Hutton
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No, the only valid factor is farmer crop damage
Why are the other factors invalid?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 5:33 pm to deeprig9
The black bear existed by nature . We just missed having them for a long while, because people like Ben Lilly killed too many, and the soybean boom of the 1970's caused alot of land clearing. Now they are back.
The property damage, i.e. corn feeders, they don't belong anyway, in the natural order of things. So many folk do not know or have forgot conservation.
The other property damage such as crop damage, yes we agreed on that already. The DWF should adjust soon to address that.
People " afraid " , you have to get woods wise.
The property damage, i.e. corn feeders, they don't belong anyway, in the natural order of things. So many folk do not know or have forgot conservation.
The other property damage such as crop damage, yes we agreed on that already. The DWF should adjust soon to address that.
People " afraid " , you have to get woods wise.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:31 pm to EF Hutton
Having a bear season with tags is not inconsistent with conservation.
I bet you think it was ok for native Americans to build fish weirs outside the natural order of things.
Bears that don't get hunted don't get afraid of humans. Hunting them weeds out the brave ones, and the smart reclusive ones carry on their genes. It's 6th grade biology.
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The property damage, i.e. corn feeders, they don't belong anyway, in the natural order of things
I bet you think it was ok for native Americans to build fish weirs outside the natural order of things.
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People " afraid " , you have to get woods wise.
Bears that don't get hunted don't get afraid of humans. Hunting them weeds out the brave ones, and the smart reclusive ones carry on their genes. It's 6th grade biology.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:54 pm to LSUballs
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Bill filed for starting a Louisiana bear season next year.
well thats nice and all, but when are we gonna get a roux-ga-roux season?
Posted on 3/7/22 at 6:54 pm to deeprig9
Yes that is a secondary good point once DWF determines that numbers warrant a few tags. But it does not in and of itself give reason to open a season. Only correct numbers and reasoning by biologists with Master degrees, determine that.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:08 pm to EF Hutton
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Yes that is a secondary good point once DWF determines that numbers warrant a few tags. But it does not in and of itself give reason to open a season. Only correct numbers and reasoning by biologists with Master degrees, determine that.
So if tomorrow a state biologist determines there are plenty enough bears to open a season, will you write them a strongly worded letter encouraging them to take into consideration the extent to which people are, or are not, woods wise enough? Or will you simply accept their assessment because they have a masters degree?
What your logic seems to be is this: There shouldn't be a bear season because the government experts haven't deemed it necessary, but if they deem it OK tomorrow, then it's fine, because the government said so. There shouldn't be a bear season right now because the government hasn't said so yet.
This post was edited on 3/7/22 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 3/7/22 at 7:27 pm to deeprig9
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So if tomorrow a state biologist determines there are plenty enough bears to open a season, will you write them a strongly worded letter encouraging them to take into consideration the extent to which people are, or are not, woods wise enough? Or will you simply accept their assessment because they have a masters degree?
actually they have to prove they warrant delisting from endangers species act.... and prove the 3 populations are intermingling.... or all of this is for naught..
the existing habitat being beyond carrying capacity is one of the two thresholds they have crossed along with total population.
Posted on 3/7/22 at 8:35 pm to deeprig9
Exactly. It takes the emotion, trend followers, popular bandwagon, all out of the over react equation.
Professional scientific decision making, not effected by bias.
Professional scientific decision making, not effected by bias.
Posted on 3/8/22 at 8:25 am to choupiquesushi
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actually they have to prove they warrant delisting from endangers species act.... and prove the 3 populations are intermingling.... or all of this is for naught..
the existing habitat being beyond carrying capacity is one of the two thresholds they have crossed along with total population.
The Louisiana Black Bear was removed from the Endangered Species List in 2016
USFWS Link
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TALLULAH, La. – U.S. Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell today announced that due to 24 years of dedicated recovery efforts by a broad array of partners, the Louisiana black bear—the inspiration for the teddy bear—will be removed from the Federal Lists of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife. The species restoration is a significant conservation success and further demonstrates the value of the Endangered Species Act (ESA).
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