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re: Beginner Reloading Questions

Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8847 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:10 pm to
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For recipe's, I've use the power's load data page on their website's and gone from there.


Manuals are just for starting points. The rifle will tell you what is max load and we know it's not blowing up the gun.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17749 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:54 pm to
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Nope. This is strictly cosmetic and has no bearing on accuracy or life of brass. It's a waste of time.


It's about reliability, preventing stuck cases in my carbide dies. The US militaey has established standards as far as appearance (cleanliness, dents, abrasion) for small arms ammunition too. Go tell them what you think, I'm sure they'll listen .
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8847 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 6:12 pm to
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It's about reliability, preventing stuck cases in my carbide dies.


It won't stick. It's brass and carbide is smooth.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:13 pm to
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I've got the Frankford arsenal steel pin wet tumbler. I've heard some clean before resizing and depriming to keep dies clean. But then you get no cleaning of the primer pockets other than cleaning tool. Looked at the case prep system you linked, but that's a later on upgrade priced option for me at this time.

I decap and resize before wet tumbling with pins.

Now, if I've got really dirty brass, like say ×45 or ×51 brass shot during raining shoots or on muddy firing lines ... I'll dry tumble with corncob or walnut (pet store tray liner bulk stuff) before annealing ... then I wet tumble with pins to get clean innards and primer pockets before I start the reloading phase.

But I admit to being a little OCD about reloading rifle brass. Not so much if I'm loading 9mm for plinking. But PD self defense pistol ammo ... yeah, I'm supper OCD about that as well.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2131 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 7:41 pm to
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admit to being a little OCD


Typically how I am about stuff. I completely take down my guns after every trip to the range and do a full cleaning even though it's not necessary. Just enjoy tinkering with them, so why not. Can see myself doing that here as well.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26895 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 8:27 pm to
Depends on what you’re doing.

My competition brass doesn’t get cleaned. I’ll anneal it, then neck size only. I want it to be as close to the chamber size of my rifle as I can get it.

Other brass, pistol, hunting, plinking is all cleaned.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 9:11 pm to
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My competition brass doesn’t get cleaned.

You're definitely referring-to fire-formed BR paper punching bolty brass ... and not AR and/or pistol brass. Not 3-gun brass, or handloaded/reloaded competition staged or IPSC/IDPA brass of any kind.





Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2131 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 7:55 am to
What is the board's suggestion for 9mm plinking round powder. Just ordered 1,000 rounds of casings/bullets. I'm leaning Titegroup, but wanted to check here first.

Got my first 50 rounds of .223 loaded. learned a few things. Took it quite slow and probably over checked every single round (if there's such a thing). Big fan of the Lee case trimmer system and the Lee factory crimp die. I tried putting a crimp with my RCBS bullet setting die and screwed that round up. The Lee crimp die is so much easier to set up.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80040 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 8:46 am to
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I usually shoot ~150 rounds at lunch every Friday.


I’d love to have a range right near my office
Posted by Success
Member since Sep 2015
1873 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 10:21 am to
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Titegroup, but wanted to check here first. Got my first 50 rounds of .223 loaded. learned a few things. Took it quite slow and probably over checked every single round (if there's such a thing). Big fan of the Lee case trimmer system and the Lee factory crimp die. I tried putting a crimp with my RCBS bullet setting die and screwed that round up. The Lee crimp die is so much easier to set up.


Agree to all of this
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2131 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:14 pm to
So I made my first mistake. Got a little overzealous and loaded ~100 rnds of 9mm before ever firing the load. Turns out my scale may have been off and the load seems to be light. Will fire, but can't cycle the slide. Got a better system to measure powder weight, plus raised from the min load and got everything working. But now have 85 rnds that I need to pull bullets. Looking at the Hornday cam lock bullet puller. Any favorites of the board to pull large quantities of bullets to hopefully re-use them?

Also splurged and got the Garmin Xero C1 chronograph this weekend.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7168 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:30 pm to
Well, that's the last time you'll make that mistake. Don't worry, you'll make other mistakes along the way as they happen to everyone. As long as the bullets don't get stuck in the barrel, you can always shoot the squib rounds and cycle the action manually. As far as pulling the bullets, I've used the same kinetic bullet puller for probably 40 years. Mine is a Quinetics, but it looks like the RBCS/Lyman. It's pretty beat up, but it still works, although I have replaced the O ring a couple of times. If you get a kinetic bullet puller, go ahead and buy an extra O ring. My spare O ring is taped to the handle.
Posted by Love me some Les
Member since Mar 2014
273 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:44 pm to
Take it all back! Shut your eyes, start drinking the blue kool aid, buy a Dillon XL750. When everything set up, cases prepped,
Takes a full 9 minutes to load 100 223. Takes about 2 1/2 hours to load 9. Buy the big tumbler. Still have my 550 tumbler, use it for small batches.

I started drinking the blue kool aid about 1994. In 2017, I finally had bought enough Dillon to load and change out calibers quickly. Even broke down and got their case trimmer.

Warranty is great. Yes, you’ve got to get to 20k rds to make it worth it. But loading 223 at .31/rd at todays prices. I’m not paying .51/ rd. .61/rd 308 and 30-06.

Loading for Garands, you know the charge of powder to get 2400 to 2500. Not the Pri Partizie spelling, 2900 I was getting out of it.

So take it all back and start on the Blue Kool aid. The others are not even in the same ball park.
Posted by Love me some Les
Member since Mar 2014
273 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
Oh forgot to say in my last post. Load 9mm about 1800 rds in 2 1/2 hours.
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