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re: Baws who complain about lack of duck numbers

Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

frick Larry Reynolds and his bullshite. I don't give two fricks what they paid him to say this week


Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
828 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

frick Larry Reynolds and his Bull shite. I don't give two fricks what they paid him to say this week


FFL much?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14034 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

Larry
Dude has gone radio silence on the forums.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2337 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:15 pm to
Count my crew as #4. The south end of Delta by Pass A Loutre WMA had 25 ducks on it last weekend. Other spots we checked had 0. Thought last year was the worst numbers we had seen downriver, but this year may be worse. Don't know if the front this weekend will be strong enough to push them in big numbers. The second one coming next Tuesday or Wednesday should do the trick.

To the OP: Plenty of ducks will get killed in Venice this year, but you will have to work hard for them. We are lazy hunters and aren't going to run all over just to kill a limit. If we can't hunt kill limits in one of our normal 12-15 spots, we just won't kill limits. We don't whine about duck numbers though.
Posted by mach316
Jonesboro, AR
Member since Jul 2012
4780 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:17 pm to
Last year was tough for AR due to low water. This year should be fantastic If we get cold weather.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25071 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:21 pm to
East central AR.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37833 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Dude has gone radio silence on the forums.



Can't say I blame him. Jeez
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:42 pm to
It’s a habitat change. Many factors, but in the MS Flyway, planting and harvesting practices have changed to the negative, and neighboring Oklahoma planting and harvesting has changed for the positive. In Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi, I’m convinced the conversion of marginal farmland to CRP and WRP has negatively affected birds too and pushed them West.

Those marginal areas were deemed such because they were low. Low fires held water. Water and food holds ducks.

It’s also documented that Missouri plants thousands of acres for ducks that can’t be hunted. They hold birds as a result, which is a newish practice.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5205 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
Nets, forgot to mention all the nets they have in place
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5056 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:56 pm to
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Many factors, but in the MS Flyway, planting and harvesting practices have changed to the negative, and neighboring Oklahoma planting and harvesting has changed for the positive.


Could you provide some examples of this?
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
828 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:05 pm to
Does sugarcane ring a bell?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14034 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Could you provide some examples of this?
"No-Till", "waste grain". While on the other hand here in LA the combines don't waste as much as they used to which leads to less duck feed. I reckon yankees are still using JD 7700's and IH 1480's and a damned old galvanized Gleaner to cut beans and corn? makes no fkn sense.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14034 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

It’s a habitat change. Many factors, but in the MS Flyway, planting and harvesting practices have changed to the negative, and neighboring Oklahoma planting and harvesting has changed for the positive. In Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi, I’m convinced the conversion of marginal farmland to CRP and WRP has negatively affected birds too and pushed them West. Those marginal areas were deemed such because they were low. Low fires held water. Water and food holds ducks.
Right on.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5056 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Does sugarcane ring a bell?


That affects maybe 10k acres in Vermilion parish and and some in St. Landry and Avoyelles. Nothing to do with Ms, NELA, and Ark.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5056 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

"No-Till", "waste grain". While on the other hand here in LA the combines don't waste as much as they used to which leads to less duck feed. I reckon yankees are still using JD 7700's and IH 1480's and a damned old galvanized Gleaner to cut beans and corn? makes no fkn sense.


You because only Southern farmers are using new combines.

There actually should be more habitat because they have more rice planted in NELA and Miss in recent years and Ark fluctuates more but they have the highest number of acres by far.
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
828 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

10k acres


Yeah, just this year... Its a pattern that has been happening for much longer than this past year
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5150 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
the rice acres in S La that are put into crawfish ponds should be deducted as well

they suck for ducks
Posted by Lreynolds
Member since Mar 2012
286 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:01 pm to
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I predict this will be the lowest duck survey released by the state in years when it's released later this week.


I don't think we are going to get the survey completed in SE LA or Catahoula Lake because of weather. We've been delayed getting airborne by fog and dodged storms thus far this week to get the first 17 westernmost lines flown (the SW LA portion of the coastal transects), and it's been a ghost town.

Estimates in just SW LA:

Mallards - 2000
Mottled ducks - 14,000
Gadwall - 96,000
Wigeon - 1,000
Greenwings - 10,000
Bluewings - 67,000
Shovelers - 37,000
Pintails - 5,000
Ringnecks - 15,000

Total ducks - 247,000

And here are some preliminary comments:

The 247,000 total ducks estimated in SW LA is the lowest on record for this survey, and is less than half the next lowest estimate of 581,000 in 2013. The most recent 10-year average for SW LA on this survey is 994,000.

The most recent 10 year November averages for SW LA are: gadwalls (463,000), greenwings(145,000), bluewings (175,000), pintails (51,000), and shovelers (83,000).

This November’s SW LA estimates for gadwalls and greenwings have never been lower. In the last 10 years, estimates for bluewings and shovelers have only been lower once. These data indicate there has not yet been a major migration into coastal SW LA.

One small flock of white-fronted geese were the only geese seen during this portion of the survey.

We have not yet flown SE LA transects or the cruise survey at Catahoula Lake, and predicted weather suggests we may not be able to prior to the season opening this Saturday in the West and Coastal Zones.

Posted by TheGhostOfBigLee
Member since Oct 2018
863 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:17 pm to
Baw you trying to challenge me? Limits were shot by 2 different groups on my private land off Baptiste. I know another 3 different groups that hunted on the Refuge and shot limits. Also, I know of some baws that cleaned up on the geese and ducks in the Thornwell area last weekend. Just because where you hunt doesn’t have birds doesn’t mean all of Venice and the rest Louisiana doesn’t have birds... They are there you just gotta find em
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5056 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:24 pm to
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Yeah, just this year... Its a pattern that has been happening for much longer than this past year


There was 425k acres of cane in 2009, 415k in 2010
441k in 2017. All that increase doesn't come from rice acreage which has been pretty steady at 400k-440k since Rita
Vermillion parish rice acres in 2018 is the highest since Rita
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