re: ATF proposes to ban the sale of m855 (5.56x45) ammo

That used to be mostly empty space around the parish line.

Here we go again.

200, 500 and 1000 round packs of bulk, especially the cheap stuff like Tula and Wolf are disappearing online since this started going around. I found a 240 round pack of 55 Wolf for 26 cents a round but it took going to a couple of dozen sites. Everyone is getting cleaned out.

Scary, really. Just reminds you how fast it can dry up with any little thing. Sunday evening I was looking to order 500 rounds of cheap bulk because I needed it. The ATF thing never crossed my mind. I was basically just looking around for the best price because everyone had plenty of stock. I got distracted and ended up not placing an order.

When I went back yesterday afternoon to go ahead and order everything was mostly gone.

this thread dies in a hurry

Midway is never that cheap anyway. It's still readily available for $0.3x at numerous online sellers.

Eta: I meant the 193.

XM193 is still available and still relatively cheap. Local places here have the floors covered in the stuff. M855 is what is getting a run on.

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I understand. My point is we all know where they are trying to go with this. A wee bit of steel in the m855 isn't what the broader issue is. Once the m855 is gone, don't think another round won't be next. They'll use the tumbling/destructive tendency of the .223/5.56, or any other excuse, to go after more rounds.

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I don't think they can without completely disregarding Federal law. With M855 they are getting very close because the round does contain a small steel slug but it sits on a base of lead/antimony. That alone should disqualify it from armor piercing based on how the law is written.

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18 U.S.C., § 921(a)(17)(B)

A projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or

A full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.

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M855 fits neither of these definitions. The neither the whole projectile or its core is entirely made of the listed materials in the first part. As for the second part, M855 has a jacket that weighs a little over 30% of it's total projectile weight but was never designed with the intent of handgun use (it was designed for the FN Minimi/M249 SAW).

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M855 is what is getting a run on.

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which is what this thread is about

I think there's a good chance of a lawsuit which will overturn this BS decision.

It's nothing more than backdoor gun control. They're even going against their own definition of AP ammo.

LC