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Arizona bans trail cams…..
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:44 pm
“ In a June 11 meeting, the state’s five-member Game and Fish Commission voted unanimously to ban the use of trail cameras “for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife, or locating wildlife for the purpose of taking or aiding in the take of wildlife.” In other words, for pretty much everything a hunter would use a trail camera for. The ban goes into effect January 1, 2022. ”
In this case the state said they wanted to reduce hunter conflict at the few remaining watering holes. Some have argued that they do promote fair chase. Is this going to be a new trend amongst the states? I have to assume that plenty of money is spent on this equipment which generates taxes and business for suppliers. What say you?
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In this case the state said they wanted to reduce hunter conflict at the few remaining watering holes. Some have argued that they do promote fair chase. Is this going to be a new trend amongst the states? I have to assume that plenty of money is spent on this equipment which generates taxes and business for suppliers. What say you?
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This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:47 pm to sawtooth
I generally hate New laws but I also hate trail cameras.
Should only be banned on public land IMO.
Should only be banned on public land IMO.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:54 pm to sawtooth
I only use them for birds, coons, pigs... I can't keep the deer out of the frame..
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:56 pm to sawtooth
I'm wondering if the ban on private property will be able to hold up.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:58 pm to Loup
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I'm wondering if the ban on private property will be able to hold up.
No clue how lol. Not sure why it is a big deal anyway. Could see ban on the wifi ones, but not sd ones
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:00 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
What’s the hate for them?
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:06 pm to sawtooth
How is this going to be enforced? Honestly curious? Obviously you wouldn’t be able to post trail camera pictures of harvested animals. But they are only illegal to hunt, not for wildlife photography.
So if you aren’t caught checking your trail camera or with pictures in the area you are hunting?
I mean I could set up cameras in Unit D and only have tags for units A, B, and C and not be doing anything illegal right?
I enjoy using trail cameras hunting or not.
So if you aren’t caught checking your trail camera or with pictures in the area you are hunting?
I mean I could set up cameras in Unit D and only have tags for units A, B, and C and not be doing anything illegal right?
I enjoy using trail cameras hunting or not.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:08 pm to ChandlerB03
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What’s the hate for them?
With the cell versions the theory is that folks will get a pic sent to there phone and head out to take the animal. There's also stories about 30 or 40 cameras being set up at waterholes and hunters checking knuckles over them.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:08 pm to ChandlerB03
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What’s the hate for them?
In western states, it's not uncommon to see a handful or more in 1 spot on public land because the water is so limited. It creates hunter conflict when so many people are focused on one small area and pattern the big game expecting to show up and hunt only to my assholes to elbows with the other people doing the same thing.
On public land in LA, TX and OK, I've never had an issue with that.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:10 pm to Loup
Not only fighting over the water hole but so many people showing up all hours of the day and night keeping animals from drinking. Only so many spots to water in the desert.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:12 pm to GATORGAR247
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Not only fighting over the water hole but so many people showing up all hours of the day and night keeping animals from drinking. Only so many spots to water in the desert.
While I agree with that in theory, an argument could be made that the cameras (eta: meant increase not decrease) increase human activity in certain areas. With a trail camera you can set it and leave the area alone. If you are scouting without trail cameras, you’d be required to visit an area more often.
This creates more activity for the hunters working hard, but probably less for lazier guys.
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:14 pm to sawtooth
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Arizona bans trail cams…..
Is this why Jay Johnson came to LSU?
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:14 pm to The Last Coco
Makes perfect sense. Never thought of it from that aspect
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:29 pm to ChandlerB03
It leads to conflict in Louisiana also. Baw goes to hunt an area and baw 2 says this is his spot because his trail camera is there
No matter his you slice it, it’s personal property left unattended
Cellular cameras are not what I would consider fair chase. Sit in your recliner at the camp, get a pic texted that a gobbler is strutting in your chufa plot. Crawl out the camp and sneak him real quick. Not fair chase
No matter his you slice it, it’s personal property left unattended
Cellular cameras are not what I would consider fair chase. Sit in your recliner at the camp, get a pic texted that a gobbler is strutting in your chufa plot. Crawl out the camp and sneak him real quick. Not fair chase
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:36 pm to ChandlerB03
I’ve seen pictures of 20+ cameras on one waterhole. I see the problem, but I’ve also seen some amazing mule deer pics from Arizona trail cams.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:38 pm to Ron Cheramie
Here in CenTex, a pig page is the start of some great fun.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:39 pm to Ron Cheramie
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Cellular cameras are not what I would consider fair chase. Sit in your recliner at the camp, get a pic texted that a gobbler is strutting in your chufa plot. Crawl out the camp and sneak him real quick. Not fair chase
That's not even turkey hunting.
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:46 pm to Ron Cheramie
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Sit in your recliner at the camp, get a pic texted that a gobbler is strutting in your chufa plot. Crawl out the camp and sneak him real quick. Not fair chase
I agree, it isn't hunting. IDK how they will justify banning it or enforcing it on private property so IDK if it's even worth attempting to ban there. I think it should be banned 100% on public land because
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No matter his you slice it, it’s personal property left unattended
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:53 pm to baldona
Not with 30 guides going to check their cameras. Cell cameras don't work that far away from the city .
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:53 pm to Loup
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I agree, it isn't hunting. IDK how they will justify banning it or enforcing it on private property so IDK if it's even worth attempting to ban there. I think it should be banned 100% on public land because
It wouldn’t be hard to ban on private land. The wildlife doesn’t belong to the private landowner. Just use the fair chase argument
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