re: Anyone looking into the electric vehicle market?

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Why can't you recharge the battery in a hybrid while you are driving and your vehicle is being powered by the gas engine? Like an alternator?

Surely they do this, right?

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What would be the point? The energy used to charge the battery is now not available to move the vehicle. No way around the law of conservation of energy.

You silly little sheep you.
I will give you this started about EV’s but it’s bigger than that.
You see in about 5 to 6 years I will retire handsomely from an oil major. Just like the 3 generations of MEN in my family before me. And I will never bite back at the hand that feed me and my family. I stand for something and will not fall for anything.
My point about closing refineries is not about EV’s. It’s about jobs.
The runway to get off of fossil fuels is a very long runway. Fossil fuel will not go away any time soon. To many products come from it. The closing of refineries is about supply and demand. NOT GAS OR Diesel OR EVEN ABOUT JET FUEL. It’s about all of the other products that will go up with inflation because they are will limit production and influence future markets. This will effect all of us.
I’m thinking about the future of jobs in our state and the opportunities of our kids.
Not to mention revenue for our parishes.

Dandyjohn you two post about the pros and cons were very informative for anyone that has not looked at them. I followed the development of the Chevy Volt with optimism since it isn't limited by battery.

But I have to say your stupid comment about get another job sounds an awful lot like the idiot we have as president right now. So f anyone that says shite like people shouldn't be worried about losing their job.

when there is a strong resale market for ev's with 100 thousand miles on it I will consider the technology is good

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What would be the point? The energy used to charge the battery is now not available to move the vehicle. No way around the law of conservation of energy.

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Not trying to be argumentative but really want to know.. What do these hybrids have in them, a sewing machine engine?

You state the energy deferred to charge the batteries would not be available to move the vehicle but is it more of a case that it wouldn't be available to move the vehicle, as efficiently? If my engine is not powerful enough to run an alternator to charge a battery and make headway at the same time its extremely under powered.

My knowledge of a hybrid is severely misguided.. I admit I've never really tried to learn about them.

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You state the energy deferred to charge the batteries would not be available to move the vehicle but is it more of a case that it wouldn't be available to move the vehicle, as efficiently? If my engine is not powerful enough to run an alternator to charge a battery and make headway at the same time its extremely under powered.

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Your engine can obviously charge your battery and move the vechile at the same time, but the energy your are putting into the battery ultimately comes out of your fuel tank. It may be a insignificant amount that would not be noticed, but that is the only source of energy in your vehiclle engine and alternator are simply a conversion devices, and the battery a storage device. With the losses involved in the process I cant see any reason to charge the battery from the engine in a hybrid for the purpose of propelling the vehicle. Using a small alternator to charge the battery to restore power used in starting the engine of a hybrid, and powering electronics in the vechile obviously makes sense.

geauxbrown, to be honest, one 30 minute charge along that 600 mile trip and you an easily go 600 in a day. 30 min charge costs about $24-$35 bucks from "E" but with normal driving getting 400 miles from a charge is becoming more of a norm. little acceleration control and you can bust 400 every charge. In town driving is what really lacks in the EV movement right now. its hard to get 300 a charge from strictly in town driving. Probably in the 275 range is norm. Lot of stops and quick acceleration is what draws amps and depleted KWH quicker. Back to Original 600 issue. Basically you can go 600 miles in most EV for under $60 right now on a battery thats now lasting 8 years. Thats pretty damn solid.