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Anyone looking into the electric vehicle market?
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:02 pm
Saw a Ford this past week will in Pineville of all places and after some internet searching,,,, found it was a Ford Maverick. Which got me looking, after i had spent $80 tanking up my Silverado, and Ford, Chevy and GMC have some decent looking ones coming available/available.
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Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:37 pm to SouthernInsanity
No
Posted on 3/12/22 at 12:54 pm to SouthernInsanity
In 10 years..... Maybe
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:05 pm to SouthernInsanity
I would say you're asking the wrong place, considering the makeup of this site. But...
I have two plug-in hybrids and I'm looking into getting an EV truck next year. I'm not looking into it because of gas prices, though, I've had a plug-in hybrid for five years now.
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
So here's my run down of this market as someone who has five years history in it.
Pure EV
For a pure ev, no gas backup, there's a few things you need to know. First, the national infrastructure is just not there if you're planning on doing road trips. If you are planning on doing trips that are >180 miles or so, you need to map out charging stations in advance and learn to only charge up to 80%.
However, if you're using this to go to the marina, or work, it's totally fine. You can charge at home each night just like you charge your phone and you'll never pay a cent in gas again. Your electricity bill will maybe change by $20-40 a month, maybe more depending on how much you drive, but it's a lot cheaper than the gas you were paying before this recent spike in prices (which I don't think is going away).
You will also get to laugh at all the busters who are here talking crap when you blow them off the line even when towing your boat.
Plug In Hybrids
I think this is probably the easiest transition for most people to make. Most of these get 50-80 miles a charge which is still enough for me and my wife to get to work and back without using gas.
In EV mode you'll also get all the performance benefits of EV over gas. Faster off the line, brake regen, crazy power, etc.
But, you can also take this thing on a road trip without pre planning your trip and worrying about charging. For us, having this type of vehicle after Ida was a game changer. We could get out of the impact area on EV and get to a gas station away from all the drama.
Another benefit of that during Zeta was we used the battery we charged before the storm hit to run basic things like phone charging stations, radio, battery recharges, etc. The car battery lasted for two weeks doing that.
I also tow my 17' poling skiff with a plug-in hybrid rav4 and it's fine. I have plenty of power for it and I have 4 wheel drive in EV mode. The only thing I don't have is the kind of suspension I'd like so the rav4 doesn't get worn out by towing the boat.
Other than that, it's really up to you and what you're trying to do. I'll repeat, anyone hating on this really doesn't know what they're talking about or is just a stubborn bump on a log. I will never go back to a pure ICE after having a plugin and in the future as charging infrastructure improves I will abandon ICE entirely.
I have two plug-in hybrids and I'm looking into getting an EV truck next year. I'm not looking into it because of gas prices, though, I've had a plug-in hybrid for five years now.
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
So here's my run down of this market as someone who has five years history in it.
Pure EV
For a pure ev, no gas backup, there's a few things you need to know. First, the national infrastructure is just not there if you're planning on doing road trips. If you are planning on doing trips that are >180 miles or so, you need to map out charging stations in advance and learn to only charge up to 80%.
However, if you're using this to go to the marina, or work, it's totally fine. You can charge at home each night just like you charge your phone and you'll never pay a cent in gas again. Your electricity bill will maybe change by $20-40 a month, maybe more depending on how much you drive, but it's a lot cheaper than the gas you were paying before this recent spike in prices (which I don't think is going away).
You will also get to laugh at all the busters who are here talking crap when you blow them off the line even when towing your boat.
Plug In Hybrids
I think this is probably the easiest transition for most people to make. Most of these get 50-80 miles a charge which is still enough for me and my wife to get to work and back without using gas.
In EV mode you'll also get all the performance benefits of EV over gas. Faster off the line, brake regen, crazy power, etc.
But, you can also take this thing on a road trip without pre planning your trip and worrying about charging. For us, having this type of vehicle after Ida was a game changer. We could get out of the impact area on EV and get to a gas station away from all the drama.
Another benefit of that during Zeta was we used the battery we charged before the storm hit to run basic things like phone charging stations, radio, battery recharges, etc. The car battery lasted for two weeks doing that.
I also tow my 17' poling skiff with a plug-in hybrid rav4 and it's fine. I have plenty of power for it and I have 4 wheel drive in EV mode. The only thing I don't have is the kind of suspension I'd like so the rav4 doesn't get worn out by towing the boat.
Other than that, it's really up to you and what you're trying to do. I'll repeat, anyone hating on this really doesn't know what they're talking about or is just a stubborn bump on a log. I will never go back to a pure ICE after having a plugin and in the future as charging infrastructure improves I will abandon ICE entirely.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:12 pm to dandyjohn
Now for the
Negatives
I have to be honest, there really have been no negatives about owning plug-in hybrids.
Some people will talk about the lack of control or understanding of how to work on these cars, but that's not an EV issue, that's how all cars are going.
You could maybe say there's a negative in finding mechanics for EVs around here - like in the case of a recall. But again, for me, that hasn't happened.
Some minor negatives though are your battery power will plummet in the cold. If it's colder than 50F, my battery will go from summertime 60miles of range to wintertime 40miles. That's a combination of having to use electrical power for heat inside of the car and the fact that batteries just don't perform well in the cold.
So for a pure EV, that means a 300mile range may get reduced all the way down to 200miles.
Outside of that, honestly and truthfully, I could not be happier making these purchases and the 6k back from the feds felt great too (as does having not touched a gas pump in two months).
Negatives
I have to be honest, there really have been no negatives about owning plug-in hybrids.
Some people will talk about the lack of control or understanding of how to work on these cars, but that's not an EV issue, that's how all cars are going.
You could maybe say there's a negative in finding mechanics for EVs around here - like in the case of a recall. But again, for me, that hasn't happened.
Some minor negatives though are your battery power will plummet in the cold. If it's colder than 50F, my battery will go from summertime 60miles of range to wintertime 40miles. That's a combination of having to use electrical power for heat inside of the car and the fact that batteries just don't perform well in the cold.
So for a pure EV, that means a 300mile range may get reduced all the way down to 200miles.
Outside of that, honestly and truthfully, I could not be happier making these purchases and the 6k back from the feds felt great too (as does having not touched a gas pump in two months).
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:41 pm to dandyjohn
How much battery life do you have remaining on yours?
That’s one major concern
Battery life
Second is it would just be a work vehicle for me. We take trips in cars a lot. Don’t want to plug it in and wait an hour.
That’s one major concern
Battery life
Second is it would just be a work vehicle for me. We take trips in cars a lot. Don’t want to plug it in and wait an hour.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 1:59 pm to bbvdd
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Second is it would just be a work vehicle for me. We take trips in cars a lot. Don’t want to plug it in and wait an hour.
My inlaws have had a Tesla for a few years and we vacation together a few times a year and it's always an issue for them, but overall they wouldn't go back to a gas vehicle, for the inconvenience of a recharge stop a few times a year, vs the benefits every other day of the year. They don't tow anything and are retired so they don't really even drive much. Great car for them. I wouldn't mind having an EV but I have two paid-off SUV's so $80,000 on a nice new EV would buy a whole lot of gasoline. I can't justify it yet. If one of mine dies, I'll give them a look.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:06 pm to SouthernInsanity
I’m not against the idea of them. Infrastructure needs to build up for them for sure.
On the positive side, I love the idea of that low end acceleration. I don’t really drive very fast, but I like to get up to speed fast.
On the positive side, I love the idea of that low end acceleration. I don’t really drive very fast, but I like to get up to speed fast.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 5:48 pm to bbvdd
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How much battery life do you have remaining on yours?
I have seen zero degradation of the battery in five years on my volt. Too early to say on the rav, it's only a year old.
I would not be on here talking about how I don't regret my purchase and how I'll never go back to pure ICE if the battery degraded.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:06 pm to SouthernInsanity
quote:No.....because I’m not a fig.
Anyone looking into the electric vehicle market?
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:20 pm to SouthernInsanity
I have a 72v bad boy cart that I love but it’s the closest I’ll come to an EV.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 7:39 pm to SouthernInsanity
Nah. This is the baw board, and the baw board don’t drive no fancy California vehicles. Also, all the baws work for oil companies
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:04 pm to White Bear
quote:
No.....because I’m not a fig.
No..... because you're just a pole smoker.
Posted on 3/12/22 at 10:34 pm to SouthernInsanity
No.
Need a tow pig. And I have one.
Need a tow pig. And I have one.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 3/12/22 at 11:23 pm to SouthernInsanity
In a few years I might get one as a toy. My buddy loves his tesla, hopefully the technology continues to improve.
this is the biggest no seller for me - losing big range due to weather conditions.
quote:
Some minor negatives though are your battery power will plummet in the cold. If it's colder than 50F, my battery will go from summertime 60miles of range to wintertime 40miles. That's a combination of having to use electrical power for heat inside of the car and the fact that batteries just don't perform well in the cold.
this is the biggest no seller for me - losing big range due to weather conditions.
This post was edited on 3/12/22 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 3/13/22 at 10:28 am to dandyjohn
To be honest, most people who are against these vehicles just haven't driven one and probably don't know anyone who's owned one (or are just stubborn and shouldn't be listened to because of that).
Or maybe we work in the oil and gas industry an are tired of seeing our livelihoods being attacked and refineries being closed down Dick head.
Or maybe we work in the oil and gas industry an are tired of seeing our livelihoods being attacked and refineries being closed down Dick head.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 10:44 am to SouthernInsanity
quote:Your “EV” is built with, fueled/charged and maintained with evil fossil fuels. I would suggest you remove your head from your arse.
No..... because you're just a pole smoker.
Throw the baby out with the bath water for a measly gov tax credit.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 11:13 am to SouthernInsanity
I love the Ford and GM ads that show the trucks out in the mountains and desert. That’s nice but how you gonna get back?
They just don’t get enough range for my taste and I don’t want to be inconvenienced by having to charge up on a long trip.
I was meeting a contractor from Dallas at a town outside Austin and he was an hour late because he forgot to charge his Tesla the night before and had to stop in Waco to get some more juice.
They just don’t get enough range for my taste and I don’t want to be inconvenienced by having to charge up on a long trip.
I was meeting a contractor from Dallas at a town outside Austin and he was an hour late because he forgot to charge his Tesla the night before and had to stop in Waco to get some more juice.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 11:45 am to eyetiger
quote:
Or maybe we work in the oil and gas industry an are tired of seeing our livelihoods being attacked and refineries being closed down Dick head.
You're a grown man who is worried about EVs taking your job instead of learning how to get a job that can handle a changing world.
Yeah, I'm the dickhead here.
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