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Anyone here have their entire house spray foamed?

Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:05 pm
If so, what are your thought? I’m building a house and trying to decide which way to go.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:13 pm to
I do. Built in 2007, when spray was just getting big. Raised home. You have to plan it from the beginning and if you use gas, you need to bring in fresh air. We have a 2 stage 21 sear HVAC system. We have be pleased but in hindsight, we would probably have been ok using cellulose in the walls on the north and east elevations and saved a large amount on insulation cost for the build.
Posted by duckaholic25
Member since Nov 2010
184 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:14 pm to
I just built a home and decided against it. Just got the highest r value I could get and have no problems. There are just too many risks when you spray. If its not done correctly it will emit a smelly gas in your home. Also need to have an engineer to look at the plans to see what kind on ventilation you will need and the right size ac unit.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20399 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:21 pm to
we built in 2006 and spray foamed all exterior walls. Heard a bunch of conflicting opinions about doing this in the attic. House needs to breathe and all that stuff... who knows. Very happy with the spray in wall insulation.

Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:29 pm to
We just bought a new construction house. I specifically asked the builder about why they chose not to do spray in foam. He said that he did it on his own home but would not put it in if he could do it again. He didn't like how tight it made the house and said that the energy savings was minimal if at all.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

He didn't like how tight it made the house

What do you mean?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20399 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

What do you mean?


No air movement in/out of the house is supposedly not healthy. Air doesn't change over because the house is not breathing. There are a lot of recommendations for spray foam homes to incorporate some kind of air exchanger into the system. Supposed to pull in 5% to 10% fresh air from outside while the AC is running. Something to this effect.

Tight houses don't breathe which can lead to moisture issues. Lots of opinions on whether or not this is truly a problem...
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3823 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:47 pm to
Those were his words, not mine I don't know much about insulation. Apparently if a house is too tight it can affect air quality inside. He said that it can restrict fresh air from the outside from coming in if your house is too "tight". He got tired of having to run his bathroom vents or kitchen hood while he was at work.

Can spray foam make my house too tight?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:49 pm to
moisture in attic can quickly mold with lack of air etc
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:59 pm to
I have 2 air handlers, one is under my house. I have a 12"x12" air return outside the home. This provides fresh air into the home.
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:11 pm to
I used spray foam in my walls. Big time energy savings when compared to the other houses in my neighborhood that didn't. I've been happy with it. If I could do it again I'd spray the roof decking as well and insulate the attic space. More energy savings by having your HVAC in a semi conditioned space.

Lots of conflicting opinions by contractors or HVAC folks, mainly by people who are uninformed in my experience. As others mentioned you need to re-size your HVAC and bring in an air exchange but worth it you can find someone who knows what they are doing.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:13 pm to
I know someone who did it. They have a leak at a window...that is not from the window. It’s coming in someplace and running behind the foam somehow and everyone (window, framer, roofer) is blaming the other. They have replaced windows and par of the wall and still leaks. Not sure if they ever figured it out.

Then I saw a story online of someone who had it emit a bad smell. It was just in the attic I think. They had to cut the entire roof off between the rafters to get it out.

Those 2 things made me run...fast.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:16 pm to
I bet the window issue is the result of condensation
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166322 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:08 pm to
My mom had a problem w a door frame when the alarm installer drilled through the frame from attic running contact wires. That made it condensate moisture through the hole.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3797 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:23 pm to
I used spray foam in the exterior walls only. Traditional blown fiberglass in the attic and fiberglass batt in the interior walls/garage/etc.

With the gas appliances and attic ventilation concerns, this was the best route IMO.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13540 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:25 pm to
No idea. Pretty sure it would leak when when it rained. Reguardless I thought about that layer of foam and how there could be channels for water to run from one side of the roof to another. That would make it just about impossible to easily see where from. Love the concept and thought about doing it but my luck I would have had issues.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

Tight houses don't breathe which can lead to moisture issues. Lots of opinions on whether or not this is truly a problem.

My house is tight and I have a problem getting a draft going when we build a fire in the winter. Either have to crack a window or leave the fire going off of gas only for about 20 minutes. otherwise itll smoke up the whole house.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2056 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 9:45 pm to
Matt Risinger on YouTube has fantastic videos on spray foam and air quality. Guy is sharp
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:24 pm to
Ive watched his videos. He is adamant about spray foaming the roof and how much it makes the house efficient with the AC unit being within an insulated area.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:31 am to
Same problem with my house. I have rockwool insulation. When I built my house 20 years ago, I insulated extras were insulation doesn't get done.

Only the guest house I am building, I will have foam sprayed under the floors. 10x better then batts due to animals or bugs getting into the insulation. The house has a 2' clearance under.
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