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Any OB'er own a Yamaha jet boat?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:46 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:46 am
Saw the Yamaha 210 FSH Sport and think it looks interesting but I don't know anything about Yamaha boats or jet boats.
I just like the interior layout and the fact that it is a mash up of a fishing, pleasure, ski boat. I fish but am not a hard-core every week fisherman by any stretch. I don't ski or pull skiers much either. TBH, 90% of the time the boat will be used to cruise around the lake/river and relax. Price seems fairly reasonable for what you are getting as well. Thoughts?
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I just like the interior layout and the fact that it is a mash up of a fishing, pleasure, ski boat. I fish but am not a hard-core every week fisherman by any stretch. I don't ski or pull skiers much either. TBH, 90% of the time the boat will be used to cruise around the lake/river and relax. Price seems fairly reasonable for what you are getting as well. Thoughts?
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:48 am to jbgleason
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TBH, 90% of the time the boat will be used to cruise around the lake/river and relax.
Only reason to get one.
Get the supercharged motor instead. Extra 100 hp and dead reliable.
The 1.8L is a horse of a motor. 1050s are... Meh
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:56 am to X123F45
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1050s are... Meh
The Sport model has twins. Performance specs look decent.
Does that change your position at all?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:56 am to X123F45
I don’t, but neighbor at the lake does and it’s pretty nice and fun to cruise in
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:18 am to jbgleason
The engines are retardedly reliable. But the 1050s are only giving 150ish hp before a lot of mods.
They are the most common engine in rental jetskis for a reason.
Having said that, and owned the 1050, 1.8, and 1.8l supercharged all in ski platforms, the 1.8 is the better motor.
If you're going to be constantly isolated, I can the benefit of twin engines.
But then again... You can get the boats with twin 1.8s too
A buddy as a limited ski with a reflash, intake, and new impeller.
I physically feel like I'm going to rip the bars off when launching.
They are the most common engine in rental jetskis for a reason.
Having said that, and owned the 1050, 1.8, and 1.8l supercharged all in ski platforms, the 1.8 is the better motor.
If you're going to be constantly isolated, I can the benefit of twin engines.
But then again... You can get the boats with twin 1.8s too
A buddy as a limited ski with a reflash, intake, and new impeller.
I physically feel like I'm going to rip the bars off when launching.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:32 am to jbgleason
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Any OB'er own a Yamaha jet boat?
Good buddy of mine just went to Tampa to pick one up and bring back to Houston. They pit stopped in Destin and played around in it on the bay and at Crab Island. He loves it so far.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:44 am to jbgleason
Got a buddy with a 23' dual supercharged ski version. It is quite a few years old now. Fun boat to cruise around in and has been rather reliable for him.
Scarab also make an open layout center console with some unique features. Scarab 255 Open G
Scarab also make an open layout center console with some unique features. Scarab 255 Open G
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:53 am to jbgleason
My cousin has the ski model with twin engines. It's loud as frick and sucks the shite out of gas. I'd rather have a 4-stroke outboard personally.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:04 am to EagleEye99
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It's loud as frick
Has he done through hull exhaust like a hooligan?
Yamaha boats and skis are stupid quiet compared to others
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sucks the shite out of gas.
Running at cruising speed, not really. People island hop in the bahamas with these.
Acting like a hooligan, you can be empty in well under two hours with twin 1.8s
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:10 am to X123F45
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It's loud as frick
I did read this in an online review. The quote from the reviewer was something like: "Don't expect long, deep and meaningful conversations when running wide open at 8,000 RPM."
That being said, I would be more concerned with the noise level at the 3k RPM 27mph cruising speed that is advertised in their specs.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:12 pm to jbgleason
My buddy has one he keep's in Grand Isle. He can get in some skinny areas w/o the worry of a prop. He loves it, pulls a 8' bait trawl with it. The back deck is awesome for fishing but when you flip the trout in it better be all the way in or he'll flop right down the back deck and out. He has the 19', ready to go to the 21'.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:28 pm to WilsonPickett
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My buddy has one he keep's in Grand Isle.
Not looking to go to the rigs or anything crazy but how does it handle mildly rough water?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:56 pm to jbgleason
Not the new 210, but I've taken an sx192 pretty far out from biloxi. I'd guess 20 miles to the second island.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:50 pm to jbgleason
I have one.
Negatives that I can think of for now.
Slow speed steering sucks, especially in wind or currents
beaching is harder, really getting off the beach
Anchoring usually requires one on stern to eliminate excessive swinging
Engines dont charge batteries very well at all. we usually charge after each use, but we do use the radio a bit. you cant idle and charge either.
Cant sit in a spot with engine at idle, there is always some minor propulsion happening
doesnt track the greatest especially when crossing wakes and waves
light weight so can get rocked when crossing as well
sucks up shite in the intake, so sea grass can really suck
very slow in no wake zones
I am sure there are a few more.
As far as positives there are a lot and definitely outweigh. Main ones
no prop, so safer for family and easier in shallow water
easy maintinence(have to change the oil, spark plugs, and grease it about once a year. all can be done at home easily and cost about $100
engine are rated at something like 3-4000 before they need a valve adjustment
can go in the salt
Ask away if you have anything specific
Negatives that I can think of for now.
Slow speed steering sucks, especially in wind or currents
beaching is harder, really getting off the beach
Anchoring usually requires one on stern to eliminate excessive swinging
Engines dont charge batteries very well at all. we usually charge after each use, but we do use the radio a bit. you cant idle and charge either.
Cant sit in a spot with engine at idle, there is always some minor propulsion happening
doesnt track the greatest especially when crossing wakes and waves
light weight so can get rocked when crossing as well
sucks up shite in the intake, so sea grass can really suck
very slow in no wake zones
I am sure there are a few more.
As far as positives there are a lot and definitely outweigh. Main ones
no prop, so safer for family and easier in shallow water
easy maintinence(have to change the oil, spark plugs, and grease it about once a year. all can be done at home easily and cost about $100
engine are rated at something like 3-4000 before they need a valve adjustment
can go in the salt
Ask away if you have anything specific
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:53 pm to jbgleason
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Don't expect long, deep and meaningful conversations when running wide open at 8,000 RPM."
Does anyone expect this when WOT on an open boat
Mid speed volume is higher but nothing absurd.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:57 pm to EagleEye99
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It's loud as frick and sucks the shite out of gas.
the dont use much at all, especially in comparison to equal other boats.
on a typical lake day entertaining folks and traveling to different spots, restaurant, etc... we use at most 8-10 gallons of gas, but typically around 5 or so. The guys I know that have inboard searays, wake boats, and one that has an outboard 275 all use more than me on the same lake/days
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:03 pm to NYCAuburn
I really appreciate the answers.
These concern me a bit, going to have to drive one for sure.
Easy maintenance has me interested.
What would you say about the performance? Top speed is rated at 43 which is fine with me but how is it on getting going? Hard to get on plane?
How about handling while under power other than what you said above?
How bad is the slow speed steering really? I am not the greatest docking technician anyway, is that a huge concern? Possible stupid question, can you counter-steer with dual impellers like you can with screws to help docking/swinging the boat around?
These concern me a bit, going to have to drive one for sure.
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Slow speed steering sucks, especially in wind or currents
beaching is harder, really getting off the beach
Doesn't track the greatest especially when crossing wakes and waves
Easy maintenance has me interested.
What would you say about the performance? Top speed is rated at 43 which is fine with me but how is it on getting going? Hard to get on plane?
How about handling while under power other than what you said above?
How bad is the slow speed steering really? I am not the greatest docking technician anyway, is that a huge concern? Possible stupid question, can you counter-steer with dual impellers like you can with screws to help docking/swinging the boat around?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:22 pm to jbgleason
Pretty darn well actually. He's been in some rough stuff w/o incident. Pretty dry in chop. It's a BITCH in the marina especially if the winds blowing. He puts in at Wakeside because of this, won't run in Bridgeside unless it's calm.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:30 pm to jbgleason
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These concern me a bit, going to have to drive one for sure.
Those are really my biggest gripes, with the batteries not far behind
the twin engine control definitely helps with slow speed, but not having that prop, you can get shifted easily with the wind or current. slow speed forward(like no wake areas) as well are a pain because you have to constantly steer. you are not pointing forward and leaving the wheel to grab something
Beaching problem is more along the lines of not enough reverse thrust. I pull up, unload, then back out, reverse direction. then anchor off a little bit. the back platform is nice anyways for unloading, loading, and hearing some music.
You get used to the traking and crossing, just keep an eye out.
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Easy maintenance has me interested.
its really a dream. there is only ever one issue with these boat engines, the spark plugs. if your engines are acting up, change them. there are really never any issues otherwise. I know quite a few with these boats and same thing. You need an oil pump to suck up oil and a grease gun. only special tools for the maintenance
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What would you say about the performance? Top speed is rated at 43 which is fine with me but how is it on getting going? Hard to get on plane?
I am not a speed guy on the water. this is always the question guys ask when at the dock. Full load and into the wind, its going to take a bit to get on plane, because you dont have tilt/trim. normal load with half tank gas and just my family no problem, unless brutal wind pushes back on the top.
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How bad is the slow speed steering really? I am not the greatest docking technician anyway, is that a huge concern? Possible stupid question, can you counter-steer with dual impellers like you can with screws to help docking/swinging the boat around?
kind of went over this above. yes you can twin stick and do 360s, somewhat perpendicular to dock, pivot, etc.. its a learning curve. more difficult in currents and wind. helps to have a second person to help with lines, etc...
I definitely try to use docks that are easier if I can
also high speed turning is almost like jet skis, however you lose speed quickly on any decent turn until you get straight again
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:36 pm to NYCAuburn
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