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cave canem
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pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
A 28GA is the perfect gun for this but shells are getting a bit tougher to find.


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Enos Burdette
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Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Any Mossberg, Remington, or Winchester pump shotgun in 20 gauge is pretty much your standard starter gun. I wouId look for a 24-28” barrel - 26” is about ideal for a 20 gauge. As stated before, the 20 gauge is a lot more versatile caliber and it’s easier to hit with a 20 gauge for a new shooter. A 410 is a challenge. On models:

Remington 870 is the gold standard for pump guns - hundreds of thousands have been made, maybe millions, and they’re as utilitarian and functional as possible. I like the safety position best on a Remington. Look for 870 Wingmaster models for a little nicer gun - they’re worth the extra money IMO. Easy to disassemble, assemble, clean and well balanced.

Mossberg 500 - thousands and thousands made. Not as smooth as a Remington. Lots of people love them but I’ve never owned one or particularly cared for the models I’ve shot.

Winchester - model 12, 1200, or 1300. Winchesters are smooth and fast. I mean smooth and fast. Model 12 was the original gold standard for pump guns before the 870. Beautiful shotguns but likely outside your price range. Of the three I’d look for a utilitarian 1980’s/1990’s 1300. They’re great guns and can be had for cheap - especially Ranger models. Great starter gun but not as nice as a Wingmaster Remington.

Aftermarket chokes should be readily available for any of the guns listed. Parts, barrels, etc. also available. Gunbroker is a great spot to find deals, but before I went and bought, I’d go to some pawn shops and find models on the shelf and see how they fit. Different people prefer different guns for fit, trigger pull, etc.

You may be a Remington man or swear by Winchester, but there’s only one way to know...
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tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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used 870 Remington pumps check pawn shops



^^^^this


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WPBTiger
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Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
First gun I got as a kid was a crack barrel single shot .410. Use it exclusively for rabbit hunting.


deltaland
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Member since Mar 2011
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I have an over/under 20 gauge I use for doves/rabbit and love it


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keyboard_warrior9
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BR
Member since Aug 2018
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I got my first 28 gauge last year and I love that thing. Thats all I shoot for doves now and I cant wait to shoot rabbits with it. It might seem like a small load but more and more companies are catering to the subgauges in terms of ammo for ducks and geese and ive actually used mine to kill ducks as well. It might be harder to find ammo wise but its not hard (hell, ive found that some walmarts carry 28)


cave canem
Mississippi St. Fan
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
10725 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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I got my first 28 gauge last year and I love that thing. Thats all I shoot for doves now and I cant wait to shoot rabbits with it. It might seem like a small load but more and more companies are catering to the subgauges in terms of ammo for ducks and geese and ive actually used mine to kill ducks as well. It might be harder to find ammo wise but its not hard (hell, ive found that some walmarts carry 28)




They are the perfect small game and bird gun, light an snappy and most point very well.

I am lusting after a Benelli ultralight right now but having a hard time convincing myself I need another sub gauge shotgun, want on the other hand...


keyboard_warrior9
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BR
Member since Aug 2018
747 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I was gifted by my grandfather a beretta a400 unico and it is a SWEET shooting gun but being a Benelli guy, the 28 Ethos is very tempting

In Sept I didnt teal hunt with anything other than #6 steel in the 28
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cave canem
Mississippi St. Fan
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
10725 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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In Sept I didnt teal hunt with anything other than #6 steel in the 28




That is unpossible, every baw knows you need 3 1/2 inch 12 gauge super mag for that

Bet your shoulder thanked you.


keyboard_warrior9
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove


I cant upvote that post enough


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deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I also have an old NE firearms breakopen single shot .410 already, but it doesn't shoot straight.


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GRIZZ
LSU Fan
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
3483 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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20 gauge with high brass #6 for rabbits and #8 for doves


This exactly.


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deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
37839 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Is the 26in Remington 20ga Express with the "vent rib choke" a good rabbit/squirrel/dove gun?



bbvdd
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Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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Is the 26in Remington 20ga Express with the "vent rib choke" a good rabbit/squirrel/dove gun?


The new ones? No. All new Remingtons are complete shite.

I’m not joking.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
37839 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
The only potential negative I read is that parts of the trigger assembly are plastic, and that the wood isn't actually wood, it is veneer, but otherwise solid guns for the price. You are saying it is worse than that?

I'm speaking of the Express model 870 20ga.


deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
37839 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Followup... if I go used shopping, what year am I looking for that is not "shit" ? And how do I figure out the year of it?


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wickowick
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Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
#5 lead for ducks in 20 gauge is deadly


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Thunder
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Western by God Vernon Parish
Member since Mar 2006
1718 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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Love my 410 for rabbit

Tell ya what there ain't nearly enough threads about the bad arse little 400 hundred and 10 gauge shotgun....... My first was a bolt action ..... Man do I remember shoot' n squirrels with that beautiful gun............ God i miss being 14 or 15 again


Tigre85
Houston Astros Fan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
702 posts

re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I can't hit doves with a 12 gauge and ain't seen a rabbit on our property in 2 years . Sticking to deer , ducks and geese .


armsdealer
LSU Fan
Member since Feb 2016
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I'd go used. New entry level shotguns are crap. Oh, and 20 over 410.


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