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deeprig9
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.410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
The closest public land to my house is a 200 acre complex of county dove fields that also has a rabbit season- no dogs though. They don't allow rifles, not even 22lr or air rifle. Shotgun only.

Please also recommend a shell, one for cotton tails and one for dove.

My budget is under $250 new or $200 used.

I suppose larger gauge isn't out of the question but my boy is coming up on shooting age in the next two years and want this for him as a beginner shotgun too. For my purpose it is for rabbits and doves on public land, not ducks or cranes or coons etc.

Thanks in advance!

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hophead
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Love my 410 for rabbit but hard to beat a good 20 gauge


GREENHEAD22
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I would go twenty gauge. You will get more years of use out of it and can still use it when hes an adult. I took the youth stock off of mind and put a full size and is now my home defense shotgun.


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LSUA 75
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Get him a 20 gauge,.410 is for experts not beginners.20 gauge shells are cheaper also.


deeprig9
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Ok, which 20ga model, and which shells for bunnies and which for dove?


DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
quote:

410 is for experts not beginners


Yep. A 20 ga is perfectly usable for ducks and even deer as well. It's a good do-all shotgun.


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Big Bill
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
20 gauge with high brass #6 for rabbits and #8 for doves


Ol boy
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Don’t limit your budget based on used or new. Some of the older guns that are better quality are in that 250$ used range.
I would take a old 870 used versus a new Turkish gun.
Go look at some used 870 Remington pumps check pawn shops from now till summer for some decent deals.


bbvdd
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
.28 gauge is such a much better shell than the .410.

Price wise they are pretty close.
But, for a kid’s 1st shotgun, go with a .20 hands down.


Bigpoppat
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Find an 870 20 gauge and call it a day


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Four Leaf Tayback
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
High brass 7.5s for doves and rabbits out of 20 gauge is all you need


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deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
My kid is in 1 percentile in size, is almost 5 and wears 3yo clothes, so size and recoil and whatnot needs to be sized appropriately. It will be a couple years before he is shooting, but he won't be a typical size 7yo, he'll be more like a 5yo in size.

So keep that in mind with the recommendations and please keep them coming!


oleyeller
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Can do more with 20ga

Also 410 ammo is high as giraffe pussy


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GREENHEAD22
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If you are worried about recoil then try to find and auto. Or just put a butt cushion on it and get a pump.


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bbvdd
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
My son was the same way. He started shooting my nephews .870 .20

I actually believe that a smaller person handles recoil better than a larger person (so long they have the gun shouldered properly) because they will move with the gun more easily than a bigger person.

He shot the 870 for a couple of years and then I bought him a Franchi Affinity .20. He’s 13 now (5’4” and maybe 90lbs) and is shooting my Beretta 12g O/U and Benelli SBE2 on his schools trap team.
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pilsnerpusher
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
For rabbits I usually go with high brass 5 or 6. But I have a buddy that uses 7.5. They're just as dead with either.


GREENHEAD22
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Same, 5-6 for rabbit and 7.5 for doves.


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upgrade
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
Just make sure it fits him right. I was/still am shorter than most and started off using a full sized 16 gauge 870. It was a reach for me. Mossberg makes a few different sizes of their youth 500’s. I think they go as short as 12”.


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Loup
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
I've been shooting the same remington 870 20 guage since I was 10. Over 20 years. I have a 12 guage but I use the 20 a lot more because it doesnt booger up my frail shoulders


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speckledawg
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re: .410 or 20ga for Rabbits and Dove
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.28 gauge is such a much better shell than the .410


My son has a 28 BPS that he has yet to grow into. I took it on a quick squirrel hunt this year just to shoot it. It's a sweet little gun. Thought about trying it on doves nex year, but I'd probably embarrass myself.

OP, I'd go 20 for sure. 7.5s Out of a 20 is a great dove combo, like others mentioned.
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