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re: 300Blackout For Deer Hunting
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:12 am to Tight 10
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:12 am to Tight 10
I’ve used the 110 V-Max on 2 deer and both dropped immediately. No exit wound but the insides were jellied. So far, I am ok with the performance as all the bullets energy was dumped inside the animal.
Have taken 3 with the 6.5 Grendel and none were immediate drops. Only ran 20-40 yards but good blood trail.
For my daughter’s 16th birthday I got her an AR in 300 BO. Great caliber for young shooters and as others have said, with the right ammunition, it will do the job. Works great suppressed!
Have taken 3 with the 6.5 Grendel and none were immediate drops. Only ran 20-40 yards but good blood trail.
For my daughter’s 16th birthday I got her an AR in 300 BO. Great caliber for young shooters and as others have said, with the right ammunition, it will do the job. Works great suppressed!
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:18 am to SpookeyTiger
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Have taken 3 with the 6.5 Grendel and none were immediate drops. Only ran 20-40 yards but good blood trail.
What kind of bullet did you use?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:30 am to baldona
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I’m not understanding how people relate bullets that exit to poor blood? If you are shooting subsonic then yes you are likely doing less damage, just read any number of journals that discuss high velocity rifle shots and tissue damage.
I killed my first buck with a heart shot from a .270 with an old trophy bonded bear claw. The exit wound didn’t look any different than the entrance. I didn’t find a drop of blood, although, it didn't help that the area I was in was flooded. He jumped over several palmettos that should have easily showed at least some small drops of blood, but it didn't. I luckily found him by trailing his water drops on vegetation.
Sometimes bullets perform poorly regardless of shot placement. A high shot with a good exit wound is still going to produce enough blood to follow. It’s just hard to find a good bullet that expands well AND exits in these lower velocity calibers.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:30 am to SpookeyTiger
quote:I’ve had the exact same results. Barnes Vortex Tac TX bullet
Have taken 3 with the 6.5 Grendel and none were immediate drops. Only ran 20-40 yards but good blood trail.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Read the thread ".223 for bear, elk and moose" on rokslide.com
That’s an interesting thread to say the least but I’ll emphasize that ammo selection being ultra critical part. They are really holding up the 77gr TMK with a 223/556 just being the vessel, but there’s a lot of other selling points to the chambering. Reading between the lines it sounds like sierra developed that bullet mostly for aloha snackbar hunting and it’s not a traditional target bullet at all.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:45 am to TheDrunkenTigah
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sounds like sierra developed that bullet mostly for aloha snackbar hunting and it’s not a traditional target bullet at all.
Yea, I think thats the prevailing idea out there.
I'm not going to go out advocating a .223 to anyone because of that. I dont think there's a factory loaded 77gr tmk available on the shelf anymore. They do like some other flavors of heavy .22 bullet as well, I think hornady ELDM is popular and widely available. I do think I'd prefer a .223 with heavy bullets to a .300BO though if I had to be using one of the two.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 8:58 am to reds on reds on reds
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I've killed a couple dozen deer over the last several years with subsonic 300blk.
What bullet, and where are you aiming? Distance?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:13 am to halleburton
Check out discreet ballistics if you are wanting subsonic 300blk hunting rounds.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:41 am to LSUDUCKMAN67
Great idea, exactly what I did except different caliber.
6.8 SPC would be first choice and 6.5 Grendel would be second. 300BO is a excellent subsonic, but supers are like a toned down 30-30.
SPC and 277 wolverine will cook a 110gr Barnes down the powerline with ballistics closer to 308/7mm08. My 277W are still 1k/Lbs. to 370 yards, which is plenty for a deer.
6.8 SPC would be first choice and 6.5 Grendel would be second. 300BO is a excellent subsonic, but supers are like a toned down 30-30.
SPC and 277 wolverine will cook a 110gr Barnes down the powerline with ballistics closer to 308/7mm08. My 277W are still 1k/Lbs. to 370 yards, which is plenty for a deer.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:01 am to Sparetime
I've killed 2 does and around 8-10 hogs with subsonic 300BO ammo. I don't remember which ammo below i used for deer or hogs, probably a combo of both. I used the hog hammer ammo first and couldn't find it any more (not sure if they still make it) and then moved on to the Hornady. Didn't notice much difference in stopping power or accuracy. All were shot within a 50 yard range. I kind of treat using sub 300BO similar to using a crossbow as far as acceptable range. all head shots and most dropped immediately. a few ran 10-20 yards. Most of these shots were in the 20-30 yard range with a solid rest. I think if you stay within a certain range and within your shooting limits sub 300 can be used ethically (or on par with a crossbow). Now days, if i hunt subsonic i'm using a subsonic 45-70. Much much greater stopping power with the 400+ grain subsonic bullet.
Hornady Subsonic Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 190 Grain Sub-X FTX
Remington Hog Hammer Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 130 Grain Barnes TSX Hollow Point Boat Tail
Hornady Subsonic Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 190 Grain Sub-X FTX
Remington Hog Hammer Ammunition 300 AAC Blackout 130 Grain Barnes TSX Hollow Point Boat Tail
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:44 am to SWHouston Tiger
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all head shots
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a few ran 10-20 yards
wat
Posted on 1/12/24 at 1:00 pm to Theduckhunter
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What kind of bullet did you use?
Hornady 123 grain SST
Posted on 1/12/24 at 6:19 pm to Sparetime
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6.8 SPC would be first choice and 6.5 Grendel would be second.
Same muzzle energy, same recoil.
Grendel has better bullet selection, better sectional density, better ballistic coefficient, capable of using heavier bullets, more down range energy, sized “6-5” is more street cred, name is way cooler (monster from Epic of Beowulf). How can you say Grendel is second to SPC?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 6:23 pm to Theduckhunter
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none were immediate drops.
For the most part, if a game animal drops immediately, it's because of:
-a specific shot (central nervous system or the brachial plexus "anchoring shot")
-a hunting bullet at really high velocity in the chest.
Otherwise, when a game animal drops immediately, it's not usually because of the bullet used.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 8:40 am to Soul Gleaux
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110 Barnes
Thats some bad azz bullets! If you're shooting within a 100 yds, it will do the job!
Posted on 1/13/24 at 2:26 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I don’t believe you’re comparing apples to apples. 6.8 beats Grendel if you’re both using 16 inch barrels. To get better ballistics the grendal has to use a 20 inch barrel.
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How can you say Grendel is second to SPC?
I don’t believe you’re comparing apples to apples. 6.8 beats Grendel if you’re both using 16 inch barrels. To get better ballistics the grendal has to use a 20 inch barrel.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:27 pm to EFHogman
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To get better ballistics the grendal has to use a 20 inch barrel.
Yeah, so?
You can also buy cheap wolf ammo in 6.5G that you can buy in 6.8spc. Also you can make 6.5G brass from plentiful 7.62x39. 6.8 is a fatter, but lighter bullet that doesn’t penetrate as well, and with this range of muzzle energy on hog and deer sized animals you want more penetration. Plus just look at the cases side by side… the 6.8 with its short bullet looks like a scaled up .223 while the Grendel has that long sexy bullet. Winner Grendel.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 11:34 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Yeah, so?
Yeah so? Some people don't want their rifle to look like a long pool stick when they hunt w a suppressor. These calibers have their pluses & minuses but to blindly say Grendel is better ballistics w/o noting the need for a longer barrel is misleading. And yeah the name Grendal is sexier.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:17 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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all head shots
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a few ran 10-20 yards
wat
Yes, a few of the hogs ran or rather stumbled off 10 to 20 yards after. Not sure why this is in question.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 3:27 pm to SWHouston Tiger
Critters running after head shots make for an unimpressive round.
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