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re: 3 missing boaters on Pickwick Lake

Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Just seems crazy with 3 of them they couldn't call someone to come and help them.


Depends an where they were when the boat lost power. If they were close to the dam the first damn thing I am going to do is try to restart the motor. Second is deploy the trolling motor. I am going to try to save my life not bother calling to let someone know to come recover my body.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16321 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Also, if all 3 had life jackets is it not possible one may have survived? Its not that far of a fall I mean if they went over the spillway?


It's not the fall, but cold would do it real fast. That water is freakin dangerous as hell right there too. Even with life jackets, I don't think you are coming out of it for awhile. With life jackets though, I would think they would of found them by now.

Here's a shot of Chickamauga just a few minutes ago, pic really doesn't do it justice just how violent that water is right there.

This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16321 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:48 pm to
Other thing is if they went through a completely open gate or a not quite open gate. If the boat hit a barely open gate, you get the picture.

No real talk of details of the video from my contacts. Police involved and such.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:48 pm to
Looks like they have switched to a recovery mission now.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40983 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 6:59 pm to
Grew up fishing that lake with family .... Sardis and Pickwick both, and Reelfoot too.

Been many a bunch of people's lives end on all three lakes.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27100 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:34 pm to
In laws told me that there were a bunch of fishermen out with their boats today searching for their bodies.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
12909 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:25 pm to
Searched for a helicopter pilot there downriver several years back. Boats, dogs, etc with no luck. Some of the pilots friends came down and were helping from the air. Finally one of them spotted something but it was several feet below water. Boats would have to be right over it to see. Still took a week to find him.
Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:07 pm to


Yeah it is close. I could see engine trouble after launch being a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22498 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:15 am to
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Depends an where they were when the boat lost power. If they were close to the dam the first damn thing I am going to do is try to restart the motor. Second is deploy the trolling motor. I am going to try to save my life not bother calling to let someone know to come recover my body.



Certainly, but there was 3 of them and since they were school age I’m assuming they were supposed to have life jackets on to motor. Adult is working on motor, one kid runs trolling motor, 3rd person on the phone to call for trouble.

Panic sets in and chaos occurs I know. Tragic all around.

I know the water is cold and rough by damn but I’d assume if you survived the fall from the damn and had a life jacket you could swim to shore down river before long? Big ifs I know
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22498 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:21 am to
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A parent of one of the students called a fishing team coach on Sunday to report their teen had not come home, according to RadioNWTN.com. The three were officially reported missing around 9 p.m. Sunday, according to a state press release.


From the article. That’s frustrating it took so long. Can’t believe the parent waited so long to report. If the went over the damn and survived search and rescue had almost no shot to find them alive in the water due to the time frame.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:28 am to
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Its been verified already that the boat was occupied when it went through the open spillway



This is my personal nightmare.


I fish two lakes that have open spillways: Demopolis and Yates. There is always some idiot that drives over the dam at Demopolis. At Yates, they have a chain that crosses the lake before the dam.

I was on Yates one day and spun a hub. Fortunately, I had enough trolling motor to make it back to the launch. It wasn't until I got back that I remembered the open spillway. I could have easily grabbed the chain and tied off to it, but it still puts things in perspective.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22498 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:49 am to
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I could have easily grabbed the chain and tied off to it, but it still puts things in perspective.


Interesting. Would Pickwick not have a safety device like this? Makes complete sense that they would?

I was thinking, I mean how close to the damn would they have been fishing or boating? From that map the launch is a good ways away. You likely couldnt fight going against the currently directly with a trolling motor but they should have been able to use the trolling motor to move laterally and to safety? Certainly possible it was an electrical issue that effected both.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27100 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 1:03 pm to
Just heard some more details on this.

So, I knew that they were having boat motor troubles but it turns out that their outboard wouldn't crank period.

They apparently were using their trolling motor and instead of staying in the huge cove and fishing (where the boat ramp is) they trolled out to the river.

When the corp is pulling that much water a trolling motor doesn't stand a chance with that current. When they got past the no wake zone it was game over. There was nothing they could do.

should have, at the very least never left the cove, and at the best called it a day with no motor.
I don't know what their experience was but never chance it on the water.

Oh, the water temp is right at 50. At that temp there was no chance to try and swim to one of the banks if they survived the fall.

If you look at the areal map, the water is up well past the wharf road below the dam. The river below is probably .5 mile wide.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18913 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:16 pm to
I thought after 911 most major damns had a cable or something
Posted by Bigpoppat
Drinking a Manhattan
Member since Oct 2008
9260 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:43 pm to
Any updates?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27100 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:58 pm to
Nothing yet.

Still looking for the bodies. They’re either caught up in a tree or way, way downstream at this point.

Rain is starting again tonight.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8350 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:17 pm to
Is it possible or likely that the bodies are trapped and held by the undertow where the water spills over the dam?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16321 posts
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:12 pm to
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When the corp is pulling that much water


Corps only has responsibility to run the locks on our dams. We do the water orders on the gates. They do have some of their own dams in the valley though.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
922 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:39 am to
This is what I read as well, incredibly stupid. Lots of bass fishing guys talking about not placing blame and respect for families...total nonsense.

No anchor
No marine radio
No Epirb or similar device

Loads 2 kids into a boat without a functioning motor and proceeds to use trolling motor to drive right out into river just above a dam spilling water in full flood control mode. In my experience most bass boat owners are a bunch of complete idiots who think they know everything, far worse than the average idiot piloting a small saltwater boat.

Bass boat tournaments and their organizers are just as bad, everyone involved thinks a life jacket is the only piece of safety gear invented for a boat. If you don't have an anchor capable of stopping the boat from drifting or a radio that can call for help you have no business being on the water. Especially "captaining" several young kids in an organized event. Add to that the lack of judgement and they were doomed the minute the boat hit the water.

If the so-called captain were actually a real captain and survived he would be criminally charged for killing the other two on board. The level of negligence is dumbfounding.

Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25326 posts
Posted on 3/2/20 at 9:01 am to
I agree with everything other than the relative comparison to saltwater fisherman.

There are ill prepared people all around.
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