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re: 3 missing boaters on Pickwick Lake
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:34 pm to baldona
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:34 pm to baldona
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Just seems crazy with 3 of them they couldn't call someone to come and help them.
Depends an where they were when the boat lost power. If they were close to the dam the first damn thing I am going to do is try to restart the motor. Second is deploy the trolling motor. I am going to try to save my life not bother calling to let someone know to come recover my body.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:43 pm to baldona
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Also, if all 3 had life jackets is it not possible one may have survived? Its not that far of a fall I mean if they went over the spillway?
It's not the fall, but cold would do it real fast. That water is freakin dangerous as hell right there too. Even with life jackets, I don't think you are coming out of it for awhile. With life jackets though, I would think they would of found them by now.
Here's a shot of Chickamauga just a few minutes ago, pic really doesn't do it justice just how violent that water is right there.

This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:48 pm to Dam Guide
Other thing is if they went through a completely open gate or a not quite open gate. If the boat hit a barely open gate, you get the picture.
No real talk of details of the video from my contacts. Police involved and such.
No real talk of details of the video from my contacts. Police involved and such.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 2/26/20 at 1:48 pm to Dam Guide
Looks like they have switched to a recovery mission now.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 6:59 pm to bbvdd
Grew up fishing that lake with family .... Sardis and Pickwick both, and Reelfoot too.
Been many a bunch of people's lives end on all three lakes.
Been many a bunch of people's lives end on all three lakes.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:34 pm to scrooster
In laws told me that there were a bunch of fishermen out with their boats today searching for their bodies.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:25 pm to bbvdd
Searched for a helicopter pilot there downriver several years back. Boats, dogs, etc with no luck. Some of the pilots friends came down and were helping from the air. Finally one of them spotted something but it was several feet below water. Boats would have to be right over it to see. Still took a week to find him.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:07 pm to Itismemc

Yeah it is close. I could see engine trouble after launch being a disaster waiting to happen.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:15 am to omegaman66
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Depends an where they were when the boat lost power. If they were close to the dam the first damn thing I am going to do is try to restart the motor. Second is deploy the trolling motor. I am going to try to save my life not bother calling to let someone know to come recover my body.
Certainly, but there was 3 of them and since they were school age I’m assuming they were supposed to have life jackets on to motor. Adult is working on motor, one kid runs trolling motor, 3rd person on the phone to call for trouble.
Panic sets in and chaos occurs I know. Tragic all around.
I know the water is cold and rough by damn but I’d assume if you survived the fall from the damn and had a life jacket you could swim to shore down river before long? Big ifs I know
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:21 am to baldona
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A parent of one of the students called a fishing team coach on Sunday to report their teen had not come home, according to RadioNWTN.com. The three were officially reported missing around 9 p.m. Sunday, according to a state press release.
From the article. That’s frustrating it took so long. Can’t believe the parent waited so long to report. If the went over the damn and survived search and rescue had almost no shot to find them alive in the water due to the time frame.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:28 am to lv2bowhntAU
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Its been verified already that the boat was occupied when it went through the open spillway
This is my personal nightmare.
I fish two lakes that have open spillways: Demopolis and Yates. There is always some idiot that drives over the dam at Demopolis. At Yates, they have a chain that crosses the lake before the dam.
I was on Yates one day and spun a hub. Fortunately, I had enough trolling motor to make it back to the launch. It wasn't until I got back that I remembered the open spillway. I could have easily grabbed the chain and tied off to it, but it still puts things in perspective.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:49 am to Aubie Spr96
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I could have easily grabbed the chain and tied off to it, but it still puts things in perspective.
Interesting. Would Pickwick not have a safety device like this? Makes complete sense that they would?
I was thinking, I mean how close to the damn would they have been fishing or boating? From that map the launch is a good ways away. You likely couldnt fight going against the currently directly with a trolling motor but they should have been able to use the trolling motor to move laterally and to safety? Certainly possible it was an electrical issue that effected both.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 1:03 pm to baldona
Just heard some more details on this.
So, I knew that they were having boat motor troubles but it turns out that their outboard wouldn't crank period.
They apparently were using their trolling motor and instead of staying in the huge cove and fishing (where the boat ramp is) they trolled out to the river.
When the corp is pulling that much water a trolling motor doesn't stand a chance with that current. When they got past the no wake zone it was game over. There was nothing they could do.
should have, at the very least never left the cove, and at the best called it a day with no motor.
I don't know what their experience was but never chance it on the water.
Oh, the water temp is right at 50. At that temp there was no chance to try and swim to one of the banks if they survived the fall.
If you look at the areal map, the water is up well past the wharf road below the dam. The river below is probably .5 mile wide.
So, I knew that they were having boat motor troubles but it turns out that their outboard wouldn't crank period.
They apparently were using their trolling motor and instead of staying in the huge cove and fishing (where the boat ramp is) they trolled out to the river.
When the corp is pulling that much water a trolling motor doesn't stand a chance with that current. When they got past the no wake zone it was game over. There was nothing they could do.
should have, at the very least never left the cove, and at the best called it a day with no motor.
I don't know what their experience was but never chance it on the water.
Oh, the water temp is right at 50. At that temp there was no chance to try and swim to one of the banks if they survived the fall.
If you look at the areal map, the water is up well past the wharf road below the dam. The river below is probably .5 mile wide.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:16 pm to bbvdd
I thought after 911 most major damns had a cable or something
Posted on 3/1/20 at 7:58 pm to Bigpoppat
Nothing yet.
Still looking for the bodies. They’re either caught up in a tree or way, way downstream at this point.
Rain is starting again tonight.
Still looking for the bodies. They’re either caught up in a tree or way, way downstream at this point.
Rain is starting again tonight.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:17 pm to bbvdd
Is it possible or likely that the bodies are trapped and held by the undertow where the water spills over the dam?
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:12 pm to bbvdd
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When the corp is pulling that much water
Corps only has responsibility to run the locks on our dams. We do the water orders on the gates. They do have some of their own dams in the valley though.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 8:44 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:39 am to bbvdd
This is what I read as well, incredibly stupid. Lots of bass fishing guys talking about not placing blame and respect for families...total nonsense.
No anchor
No marine radio
No Epirb or similar device
Loads 2 kids into a boat without a functioning motor and proceeds to use trolling motor to drive right out into river just above a dam spilling water in full flood control mode. In my experience most bass boat owners are a bunch of complete idiots who think they know everything, far worse than the average idiot piloting a small saltwater boat.
Bass boat tournaments and their organizers are just as bad, everyone involved thinks a life jacket is the only piece of safety gear invented for a boat. If you don't have an anchor capable of stopping the boat from drifting or a radio that can call for help you have no business being on the water. Especially "captaining" several young kids in an organized event. Add to that the lack of judgement and they were doomed the minute the boat hit the water.
If the so-called captain were actually a real captain and survived he would be criminally charged for killing the other two on board. The level of negligence is dumbfounding.
No anchor
No marine radio
No Epirb or similar device
Loads 2 kids into a boat without a functioning motor and proceeds to use trolling motor to drive right out into river just above a dam spilling water in full flood control mode. In my experience most bass boat owners are a bunch of complete idiots who think they know everything, far worse than the average idiot piloting a small saltwater boat.
Bass boat tournaments and their organizers are just as bad, everyone involved thinks a life jacket is the only piece of safety gear invented for a boat. If you don't have an anchor capable of stopping the boat from drifting or a radio that can call for help you have no business being on the water. Especially "captaining" several young kids in an organized event. Add to that the lack of judgement and they were doomed the minute the boat hit the water.
If the so-called captain were actually a real captain and survived he would be criminally charged for killing the other two on board. The level of negligence is dumbfounding.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 9:01 am to tes fou
I agree with everything other than the relative comparison to saltwater fisherman.
There are ill prepared people all around.
There are ill prepared people all around.
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