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re: 243 for young first time hunter, did I make a mistake?
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:54 am to Out da box
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:54 am to Out da box
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What an egotistical, small man syndrome moron.
I know, it's really unbecoming of you. Kind of showing your arse in this thread.
I'm sorry you can't shoot a rifle. Maybe hit the range for some more practice
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:23 am to GREENHEAD22
Shoot the Barnes ttsx 80 grain or the Hornady 80 grain CL. Fantastic bullets
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:43 am to Park duck
You guys using copper bullets - what kind of results are you getting? Good penetration? Exits? Good damage to vitals? Pics would be appreciated. Ive considered using barnes for the .223 as well, but my experience with TSX and TTSX in bigger calibers is that they havent been very impressive.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:45 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:I shoot 150gr TTSX in my .308 and it's been shockingly devastating
TTSX in bigger calibers is that they havent been very impressive.
I legit will not change bullets, I do want to try the 130gr though
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:53 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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My man
Out of the 243Win and 6.5Grendel, only one fits in an AR-15 and only one is named after a mythological demonic superhuman monster descended from the biblical Cain. The winner is obvious.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:05 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You guys using copper bullets - what kind of results are you getting?
My only experience so far was 35 whelen 180gr TTSX at 300 yards. Went through the shoulders but didn’t hit bone. Exit was decent enough from what I recall, but evidently not picture worthy lol. He ran about 20 yards and piled up.
I would like to try some TTSX in my .308, but the 165 gr fusions have been excellent and I still have a lot of them.
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 10:08 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:25 am to mylsuhat
I legit will not change bullets, I do want to try the 130gr though
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:29 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Ive shot over 20 deer with them and have lost zero. The farthest one has gone was 50 yards or so
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:30 am to Seth Bullock
Sorry if my terminology isn't up to your standard but there is a difference between bullet construction and weight
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:35 am to Squirrelmeister
As I said earlier in this thread, I’ve been on their arse the past few years with my 6.5 Grendel with fantastic results. I keep my shot distance reasonable (under 250yds) using the Barnes 115gr tac tx bullet.
12/12 on deer. All but one fell within 30 yds. Always a get a pass through with a decent blood trail. Th only one that didn’t fall within 30 yds was a 187lb buck taken at 235yds. He made it roughly 55 yds
12/12 on deer. All but one fell within 30 yds. Always a get a pass through with a decent blood trail. Th only one that didn’t fall within 30 yds was a 187lb buck taken at 235yds. He made it roughly 55 yds
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 10:45 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:36 am to Park duck
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Ive shot over 20 deer with them and have lost zero. The farthest one has gone was 50 yards or so
Caliber? All exits? Blood trail?
50 yards with light blood can be a loss where I hunt.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:10 am to Theduckhunter
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50 yards with light blood can be a loss where I hunt.
I understand the feeling. I hunt on timber company, and those young pine thickets can be hell on tracking. That’s actually part of the reason I use a copper bullet in my 6.5 Grendel. I know that copper bullet is going to exit, so I’ll have blood coming from two holes(entry and exit).
As posted earlier in the thread, using a good hunting bullet is step 1, and then matching that hunting bullet to your shot distance is step 2.
Copper bullets give great penetration. The downside to them is they need the proper velocity at impact to give you full expansion. So if your shot distance is too far for your caliber/bullet(relative to your caliber/bullet ballistics. Different for each caliber/bullet), your bullet won’t expand all the way and you end up just penciling through. The Barnes 115gr tax tx bullet I use for my Grendel is a modified version of their standard TTSX design to offer standard expansion at lower velocities (standard Grendel velocities). I match my shot distance accordingly, and keep my shots under 250yds to ensure the bullet is maintaining proper velocity at impact for full expansion.
On the other side of the equation, you have bullets like the hornady SST that offer rapid expansion, and maintain that expansion at lower velocities. Their downside is that if they are moving too fast at impact they will expand too rapidly and not pass through. It’s devastating regardless, but a single entry wound can offer little blood trail for tracking. I promise you that deer is dead. Just a matter of having to find it.
So for me with my 6.5 Grendel, if I knew I was going to be shooting 250yds plus, I’d switch bullets from the Barnes to a Nosler 120 gr BT, so that at the lower velocity I’m getting the proper expansion. The same process can be followed for pretty much any caliber.
If you post your caliber, the knowledgeable posters of the OB can help you out
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 11:19 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:34 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
A perfect example for this thread. Last year my buddy shot a doe at 30 yds with his .243 using Hornady 95 grain SST.
Deer took off into the pine thickets, not a drop of blood in the shooting lane or into the pines. He ended up thinking he shot over the top of her. I called my other buddy with a dog to come and check to make sure. That doe was dead 45 yds away in the pines. Only blood was where she ended up.
When we cut her open to clean her, her chest cavity looked like you had put it in a commercial blender. I mean absolutely devastating performance. Bullet was fragmented, with the largest chuck up against the hid on the back side.
In a big ag field, she would have never made it to the wood line. In the pine thickets on a 10 yard shooting lane, it was an impossible task without a dog
Deer took off into the pine thickets, not a drop of blood in the shooting lane or into the pines. He ended up thinking he shot over the top of her. I called my other buddy with a dog to come and check to make sure. That doe was dead 45 yds away in the pines. Only blood was where she ended up.
When we cut her open to clean her, her chest cavity looked like you had put it in a commercial blender. I mean absolutely devastating performance. Bullet was fragmented, with the largest chuck up against the hid on the back side.
In a big ag field, she would have never made it to the wood line. In the pine thickets on a 10 yard shooting lane, it was an impossible task without a dog
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You guys using copper bullets - what kind of results are you getting? Good penetration? Exits? Good damage to vitals?
Mine son's 1st 2 deer were both with TSX. 6.5 grendel and 6.8 spc.
1st one was 85yds 6.8 spc: passthrough with a huge exit.
2nd was 135yds with the Grendel: 135yds also passthrough with massive exit.
Both were does and both dropped where they stood.
Both instances I bought a box and they were very accurate. I've since started reloading and I've yet to find a load with them that give the accuracy that those boxes gave me. Wish I could because I would 100% use them.
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:39 am to Theduckhunter
243 80 grain. I shoot a small eight point last year at 100 yards. Hit in the chest and exited in front of the rear right hip.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:37 pm to mylsuhat
I havent seen the TTSX as much as the TSX flavor but the ttsx does seem to work pretty well. The ttsx were all launched out of a .300 win mag and close range though, so idk that theres much to read into there. They all exited, which I guess is kinda impressive for how fast they were going now that I think about it.
The smallest one I remember seeing several kills from was the lighter 7mm TSX from 7mm-08. Recovered quite a few of them and they always look cool, I just dont remember ever being excited about the performance. The small caliber dudes on that other website hate them.
The smallest one I remember seeing several kills from was the lighter 7mm TSX from 7mm-08. Recovered quite a few of them and they always look cool, I just dont remember ever being excited about the performance. The small caliber dudes on that other website hate them.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:38 pm to bbvdd
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would 100% use them
Cool. Ive got 100 of 150gr .308 ones that I found on sale. I load them for my garand and it seems to like them, just havent found a deer to catch one for me yet.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:46 pm to GREENHEAD22
Shooting inside of 200 yards im not sure why anyone would get a kid a .243 over a 350 legend. Legend shoots heavier bullets in the 180 grain range, bigger wound channel and less recoil than the .243.
350 legend also offers over the counter sub sonics if you ever want to go that route.
350 legend also offers over the counter sub sonics if you ever want to go that route.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:59 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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If you post your caliber, the knowledgeable posters of the OB can help you out
Oh I’m just always curious about other people’s performance with different stuff. 129 gr ABLR seems to work pretty well in my… I mean my son’s… Grendel
Haven’t used much copper besides the 35 whelen. Posted on 10/20/26 at 2:16 pm to AP83
quote:Is it?
less recoil than the .243.
One reason I would consider, since 200 yards was mentioned is:
.243 Winchester (Zeroed at 100 Yards)
200 yards: -2.8 to -4.0 inches
.350 Legend (Zeroed at 100 Yards):
200 yards: -7.0 to -12.0+ inches
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