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re: 22 Creedmoor
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:20 pm to Bigsampson
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:20 pm to Bigsampson
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Terminal bullet performance would suck.
Itll still be near 2,000 fps at 800 yards. Itll work well with the right bullet.
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:07 pm to saintsfan1977
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One or 2 shots a year hasn't affected my hearing yet.
I bet it has, you just don’t realize it. As others have said the constant rings in my ears tell me all I need to know about the subject.
My son has never shot a deer without a silencer on his rifle. Actually, never shot a rifle without one. If I can help it, he never will. He’s 19 now. Shot his 1st at 9.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:35 pm to bbvdd
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bet it has, you just don’t realize it. As others have said the constant rings in my ears tell me all I need to know about the subject
Oh I know I can't hear as well as when I was a kid but my hearing is still great. My ears have rang a few times when I had a Browning BOSS rifle. I sold it and bought Terminator brakes for my custom rifles. My kids love the low recoil.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:43 am to saintsfan1977
Who the hell said anything about 300 win mags? The recoil hating small bore crowd always resorts to arguing like a woman when the the cartridge they marry themselves to get criticized.
Yes, killing broadside does and spikes doesn't take much. Using a mono or bonded bullet from a 243 or smaller is the smartest projectile choice. You can make a good shot and have a very hard time finding your deer or simply wound it. Yes, small bores can kill anything. However, they are not ideal, and it takes great discipline to use them effectively, meaning you have to give up a lot of shot angles and distance. Bullet choice dictates what shots are possible.
Again, deer hunting with small bore varmint type cartridges will bite you in the arse. People today have become so recoil sensitive it's pathetic. Stop believing the industry on everything. Remember my words when your setup fails. Good luck taking a quartering away shot on a 200# on up buck that over 100 yards away. Get that dog ready. Good luck when those small dia high BC cup n core bullets go to shite on impact. Good luck when you don't have an exit.
22's and 6mm's for serious deer hunting is retarded. Keep that shite in the TX hill country. I had the pleasure of being in a club with 243 lovers. I have also had the pleasure of guiding for years. 243"'s on down the cartridge scale have fed the buzzards well in my time. The last thing I would give a kid is a 243. At least give a them 6.5 CM with barnes or bonded bullets or a 30-30.
When you people get over 100 hundred deer under your belts and have watched over 100 animals of many species get shot come back and talk to trash. It's not if but when shooting baby cartridges will fail you. It's not an if but when shooting exploding bullets like SST, Berger, ELDX, Match Bullets, or other thin jacketed shite cup n core bullet will bite you in the arse. Get some life experience. Frontal diameter and a bullet holding together means everything. Not every lost animal is due to a bad shot and most people are not good shots.
Shoot a cartridge with reasonable diameter, reasonable power, and a bullet that can hold together so that you have some margin for error.
Yes, killing broadside does and spikes doesn't take much. Using a mono or bonded bullet from a 243 or smaller is the smartest projectile choice. You can make a good shot and have a very hard time finding your deer or simply wound it. Yes, small bores can kill anything. However, they are not ideal, and it takes great discipline to use them effectively, meaning you have to give up a lot of shot angles and distance. Bullet choice dictates what shots are possible.
Again, deer hunting with small bore varmint type cartridges will bite you in the arse. People today have become so recoil sensitive it's pathetic. Stop believing the industry on everything. Remember my words when your setup fails. Good luck taking a quartering away shot on a 200# on up buck that over 100 yards away. Get that dog ready. Good luck when those small dia high BC cup n core bullets go to shite on impact. Good luck when you don't have an exit.
22's and 6mm's for serious deer hunting is retarded. Keep that shite in the TX hill country. I had the pleasure of being in a club with 243 lovers. I have also had the pleasure of guiding for years. 243"'s on down the cartridge scale have fed the buzzards well in my time. The last thing I would give a kid is a 243. At least give a them 6.5 CM with barnes or bonded bullets or a 30-30.
When you people get over 100 hundred deer under your belts and have watched over 100 animals of many species get shot come back and talk to trash. It's not if but when shooting baby cartridges will fail you. It's not an if but when shooting exploding bullets like SST, Berger, ELDX, Match Bullets, or other thin jacketed shite cup n core bullet will bite you in the arse. Get some life experience. Frontal diameter and a bullet holding together means everything. Not every lost animal is due to a bad shot and most people are not good shots.
Shoot a cartridge with reasonable diameter, reasonable power, and a bullet that can hold together so that you have some margin for error.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 6:47 am
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:53 pm to mrcoon
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Using a mono or bonded bullet from a 243 or smaller is the smartest projectile choice. You can make a good shot and have a very hard time finding your deer or simply wound it. Yes, small bores can kill anything. However, they are not ideal, and it takes great discipline to use them effectively, meaning you have to give up a lot of shot angles and distance. Bullet choice dictates what shots are possible.
All I hunt with is Barnes bullets.
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Again, deer hunting with small bore varmint type cartridges will bite you in the arse. People today have become so recoil sensitive it's pathetic. Stop believing the industry on everything. Remember my words when your setup fails. Good luck taking a quartering away shot on a 200# on up buck that over 100 yards away. Get that dog ready. Good luck when those small dia high BC cup n core bullets go to shite on impact. Good luck when you don't have an exit.
My set up won't fail. I didn't get a 243 to shoot a deer at 400yds. I got it to carry in the woods because it's light. A Barnes 80gr ttsx flying at 3400 fps will have plenty of energy to pass through a deer.
I have a 270win and 7mm rem mag. They are both heavy barrel and accurate shoot bug holes.
I'd have no issues with shooting a 200lb deer quartered away or towards me in the woods with a 243 and an 80gr Barnes. I could shoot it head on in the chest and kill it. Finding it would be difficult but nothing a dog couldn't do. I shot an 8pt in the chest with my 270 win at 100 yds. Had to get a dog on it. Bullet had 3ft of penetration and ended up in the skin of the arse.
Im not worried about it and neither should YOU.
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Get some life experience
Lmao. You're the resident expert here? More deer has been killed with a 243 than most other calibers.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:34 pm to mrcoon
Well, people on rokslide are using .223's exclusively for elk and grizzer bear. Oughta work alright for a deer, no?
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:54 pm to saintsfan1977
I have a Ruger M77 .243 that is such a sweet gun. Need to upgrade the optics and get back to using it.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 3:58 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Well, people on rokslide are using .223's exclusively for elk and grizzer bear. Oughta work alright for a deer, no?
It works great as long as you don’t need a blood trail to follow.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 6:20 pm to mrcoon
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When you people get over 100 hundred deer under your belts and have watched over 100 animals of many species get shot come back and talk to trash.
This is like 10 years of hunting for a coonass on a Weyerhaeuser lease. Pull the stick out of your arse and recognize we’re talking about shooting an animal that’s just not that tough.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 7:40 pm to SpookeyTiger
I would like to own one so I can wound small game just as well as my 6.5 wounds large game.
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Oughta work alright for a deer, no?
Man don't you know when them deer hit 200lbs and get over 100yds away if they quarter away from you their bulletproof vests engage and become impossible to drop
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:08 pm to Theduckhunter
They are getting exit holes more often than not from what I can tell.
Im going to try it this year. Can't wait.
Im going to try it this year. Can't wait.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 6:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
It’s deadly for sure, but I wouldn’t want to use it if I didn’t have relatively clear terrain. A deer running 25 yards without blood where I’m at might mean not finding one.
That is an interesting thread on rokslide though. I love reading terminal ballistic reports… I just wish more people would be a bit more descriptive in the results sometimes.
That is an interesting thread on rokslide though. I love reading terminal ballistic reports… I just wish more people would be a bit more descriptive in the results sometimes.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 8:18 am to Theduckhunter
Agreed, the results could be better reported.
Same, and my ranges could easily vary from muzzle contact to as far as im willing to try it (a mile if I wanted to). I have LOTS of concerns about how this will work. If it actually does work as great as they proclaim it does though, it'd sure be nice.
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A deer running 25 yards without blood where I’m at might mean not finding one.
Same, and my ranges could easily vary from muzzle contact to as far as im willing to try it (a mile if I wanted to). I have LOTS of concerns about how this will work. If it actually does work as great as they proclaim it does though, it'd sure be nice.
Posted on 11/23/25 at 1:25 pm to Rize
This. I’ve consolidated to 223Rem and 308Win for centerfires. Don’t touch anything else. Bullets matter, headstamps dont.
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