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Proof of a conspiracy?..."Key rig alarm disabled before blast"
Posted on 7/23/10 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 7/23/10 at 4:28 pm
quote:
HOUSTON, July 23 (Reuters) - An emergency alarm that could have warned workers aboard the doomed Deepwater Horizon Gulf of Mexico drilling rig was intentionally disabled, a rig engineer told U.S. investigators on Friday.
Mike Williams, chief engineer technician aboard Swiss-based Transocean Ltd's RIGN.S (RIG.N) rig, said the general alarm that could have detected the cloud of flammable methane gas that enveloped the rig's deck on April 20 was "inhibited."
"They (rig managers) did not want people woke up at three o'clock in the morning from false alarms," Williams told a six-member federal board in the New Orleans suburb of Kenner, Louisiana.
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remember, the blast occurred just a couple weeks after Obama gave an executive order to increase off shore production.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 4:34 pm to Iona Fan Man
I hope you are joking about the conspiracy part. We haven't seen a nut job around here in at least a week.
Btw, "Michael Williams said he understood that the rig had been operating with the system in "inhibited" mode for a year to prevent false alarms from disturbing the crew."
Guess this was in the works for a quite a while.
Btw, "Michael Williams said he understood that the rig had been operating with the system in "inhibited" mode for a year to prevent false alarms from disturbing the crew."
Guess this was in the works for a quite a while.
This post was edited on 7/23/10 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 7/23/10 at 4:45 pm to notiger1997
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He also revealed that a crucial safety device, designed to shut down the drill shack in the case of dangerous gas levels being detected, had been disabled, or bypassed as it is called.
When he saw that the system had been bypassed, Williams protested to a Transocean supervisor, Mark Hay, who dismissed his concerns. Hay responded: "Damn thing been in bypass for five years. Matter of fact, the entire [Transocean] fleet runs them in bypass."
LINK
Posted on 7/23/10 at 4:51 pm to Iona Fan Man
might want to edit the title a little......
Posted on 7/23/10 at 5:00 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
quote:
might want to edit the title a little....
meh, as long as it gets replies what do I care....
and being that the testimony was against Trans and not BP, it's not really a big oil conspiracy.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 5:27 pm to Iona Fan Man
Tin foil hat conspiracy theorists in the case of the DWH accident = I have no clue what it's like to be on a drilling rig, production platform, or shrimp boat. But I just got my Petroleum Engineering degree online from The University of Phoenix last week, took me two whole months and 3 Kelloggs cereal box tops to get it.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 5:31 pm to LSUKNUT
quote:
Tin foil hat conspiracy theorists in the case of the DWH accident = I have no clue what it's like to be on a drilling rig, production platform, or shrimp boat. But I just got my Petroleum Engineering degree online from The University of Phoenix last week, took me two whole months and 3 Kelloggs cereal box tops to get it.
It's worse than that. It's more like: I don't understand any of this stuff about pressure and blowout preventers and mud but there's a funny looking hole in the helipad so therefore it must have been the work of al Qaeda in cahoots with Goldman-Sachs.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 5:31 pm to Iona Fan Man
Yeah i am now convinced
Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:03 pm to LSUSoulja08
Not proof of a conspiracy.
But definitely puts liability on whatever oranization intentionally disabled the alarm.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:16 pm to Iona Fan Man
Yes, the accident happened because alarms warning the entire rig that an accident has occurred did not go off.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:36 pm to Volvagia
Which totally means that the moratorium on drilling is wrong. HUMAN ERROR.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:44 pm to tiger91
quote:
HUMAN ERROR
so only robots should drill?
Posted on 7/23/10 at 6:51 pm to tiger91
quote:
Which totally means that the moratorium on drilling is wrong. HUMAN ERROR.
Actually, I was pointing out the absurdity of the statement.
It doesn't matter that someone who was sleeping wasn't notified that an accident happened....IT STILL HAPPENED.
Unless they weren't tracking it in the control room as well, this has zero bearing on anything.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 8:30 pm to Iona Fan Man
Not at all on the robots ... I'm just saying that they shut down drilling ... and that will never erase the chance of human error.
I'm saying that the MOROTORIUM (I don't think that's spelled right) ... is senseless. You can't take the human element out ...
I'm saying that the MOROTORIUM (I don't think that's spelled right) ... is senseless. You can't take the human element out ...
Posted on 7/23/10 at 9:35 pm to Iona Fan Man
quote:Here's why I sniff bull shart. Drilling rigs work 24 hours a day. It's not like everyone's asleep at 3AM. There are folks sleeping at 3PM, too.
"They (rig managers) did not want people woke up at three o'clock in the morning from false alarms," Williams told a six-member federal board in the New Orleans suburb of Kenner, Louisiana.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:08 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
It's not like everyone's asleep at 3AM
there's a fair # of people that only work days -- people like the OIM, dispatchers, radio operators, safety men, the lead company man, etc.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:14 pm to Iona Fan Man
It's not an impossible scenario. Just wait until Exxon acquires all of BP's assets in the coming months. The tables (and the media) will soon turn on Transocean. BP's stock price will remain artificially low, even after the relief wells are complete. Within 3 months, Exxon will have acquired all of BP's assets.
Shell is vying for an acquisition; however, due to their status as a Dutch domiciliary, the Administration is attempting to block their takeover while simultaneously bolstering Exxon's efforts.
Watch.
Shell is vying for an acquisition; however, due to their status as a Dutch domiciliary, the Administration is attempting to block their takeover while simultaneously bolstering Exxon's efforts.
Watch.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:24 pm to Stud
The problem is Exxon doesn't do much deep water. I don't think BP is going to sell off much more. They have plenty of cash at this point by withholding their div and selling some earlier assets.
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:42 pm to C
Are you F'ing serious???? The alarm was the last straw before death but AFTER the blowout. THe alarms needed to be listened to were the 50 different types of "alarms" the well gave the company men for weeks and in the final hours before the end.
That other alarm wouldn't have saved any of the 11 men who were on the floor and killed!!!
That other alarm wouldn't have saved any of the 11 men who were on the floor and killed!!!
Posted on 7/23/10 at 10:50 pm to C
You're correct as to both Exxon's operations and BP's financial status--an acquisition makes no sense whatsoever. However, people within the Administration are currently jumping through hoops for Exxon and pushing them to acquire BP while at the same time effectively pursuing BP through nothing short of a witch-hunt. They cannot decide how they want to go after BP. Was it the BOP, the casing, their alleged involvement in the release of the Lockerbie bomber, or was it Tony Hawyard's lack of familiarity and intimacy with the tactical and operational decisions in the well design that was the sole proximate cause of the blowout?
Shell and BP are partners on several DW joint ventures in the GOM. Accordingly, an acquisition by Shell makes much more sense, but Shell has effectively been blackballed in the matter.
Shell and BP are partners on several DW joint ventures in the GOM. Accordingly, an acquisition by Shell makes much more sense, but Shell has effectively been blackballed in the matter.
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