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re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)

Posted on 5/28/10 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/28/10 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

A) it would blow out of the riser


yes
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B) It might prevent them from placing a new BOP on top of the old one


possibly
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C) I dont think it will matter or anything will work untill more resistance is provided on the riser end.


definitely

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D) and most likely I dont have a clue.


sounds like you have a grasp on it





cementing is tricky enough under proper pressure and pumping situations. this is an almost impossible cementing situation. cementing failure is a major cause of well control issues even on the best days
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 10:53 pm to
If I got it right than it truly is credited to this thread mostly. I am in Real estate/Construction but dont know Jack about drilling except what I've been reading here and there since this thing started.
Posted by BenHOGan
Kansas City
Member since Sep 2005
1775 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:03 pm to
Admittedly stupid question but seeking a serious response:

I saw in one thread that someone said they should just send a huge depth charge down there to blow up the whole apparatus and collapse the hole, and everything along with it. Basically use the earth/seabed to collapse the drill hole and plug the whole thing. To a complete outsider like myself, that makes some sense. Why is that not an option?
Posted by TexTiga
SugarLand , Tx
Member since Oct 2007
2549 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:08 pm to
Ok folks been away for awhile . Has the Top kill failed ? are they moving on to others options?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:14 pm to
I'd guess that it would be a difficult thing to control.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:15 pm to
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Why is that not an option?



1. I think you would just crater it. You have a little hole spewing oil. You would then have a big hole spewing oil.

2. How you gonna spot the charge through the flow?

3. The BOP is holding back some flow. They don't want to make it worse.

It is the first rule of holes. When you are in one, stop digging.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:16 pm to
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Has the Top kill failed ?


Not officially. Saying it may be Sunday before they know for sure whether it has worked or not.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
90064 posts
Posted on 5/28/10 at 11:16 pm to
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blow up the whole apparatus and collapse the hole


what if they blow the hole up and make the rupture even bigger? then what?

when they use controlled charges to put out a blow out on land it is to extinguish the fire so they can cap it. blowing up the BOP could open a fracture that exposes the hole completely and allows the well to unload unfettered. Dont discount the strength of the formation pressure of the well. it is not a safe bet that the well would "collapse."

it could be the equivalent of taking a steady bleeding puncture wound in your warm and using a saw to rip it open causing it to bleed uncontrollably
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4542 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:02 am to
Looks like to me they got this!
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:13 am to
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Looks like to me they got this!



What do you know?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:18 am to
What is the white thing in the video? Is that the riser spewing oil/mud/whatever??? The rov/robot arm is moving it around ... why????
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:20 am to
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What is the white thing in the video? Is that the riser spewing oil/mud/whatever??? The rov/robot arm is moving it around ... why????


Big white thing in the middle is the bent over riser. It is spewing gas/oil/mud probably. The robert arm is not moving it. The robot arm is grabbing it to anchor the rov to it.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:23 am to
gotcha ... thanks.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:25 am to
"President Barack Obama, in Louisiana, said Energy Secretary Steven Chu will work with BP to seek alternatives if the top- kill plan fails."

That is not realistic. Secretary Chu is a physicist and a very smart man. But Thibodeaux the toolpusher knows more about this than Chu could learn after studying it for six months.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:26 am to
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But Thibodeaux the toolpusher


No offense, Thib.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 12:41 am to
Have to say I'm pretty DAMN sure that Thib would agree with you ... 100%.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
32501 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:33 am to
I wonder what the recipe was of the mud they sent down hole?

I wonder if they thought of adding a lot of LCM to help with killing this thing?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:04 am to
Is the main leak right at the top of the BOP where it is bent or further down the riser? I cant find an up to date graphic
Posted by harper6464
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
8121 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:09 am to
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Not officially. Saying it may be Sunday before they know for sure whether it has worked or not.


fwiw. "a relative of mine" works at wildlife and fisheries and they were telling them yesterday that it has worked, the leak stopped for now but they're going to wait till sunday to make sure it worked before telling the g.p.

fwiw...
This post was edited on 5/29/10 at 8:11 am
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:23 am to
I think your relative might want to seek a second opinion.
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