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re: YouTube - Driving Is Ruining Our Lives

Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:18 am to
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:18 am to
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And, like I said, attributing car ownership to a sedentary lifestyle is the biggest crock of shite I've ever heard.


Car culture and urban sprawl go hand in hand leading people to spend more time in the car going to and from work and other places which leads to less time for exercise and less walking.

Is the logic that difficult to follow?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102524 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:22 am to
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Congrats on being poor and having to live in a shitbox city. The rest of us are doing just fine with our country living lifestyle


I live in a 5 bedroom house in a town of 900 people. I have 2 trucks and SUV with V8 engines, a fishing boat and speed boat with a big block V8. I’m not fat or unhappy. My work is 5 miles down a country road where I produce food for all these fat miserable city dwellers who seek to make the rest of us miserable.

I think when I get off work I’ll take my wife and pour a bourbon and ride back roads guzzling fossil fuels just for the freedom of it
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
15055 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:24 am to
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Car culture and urban sprawl go hand in hand leading people to spend more time in the car going to and from work and other places which leads to less time for exercise and less walking


So take the fricking bus if that’s what you want.

Stop trying to force YOUR ideology on others. I don’t force anything on you.
Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6457 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:24 am to
More government is never, ever the answer.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:24 am to
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Not to mention, it is not arguable that we are all poorer, more unhappy, fatter, and unhealthy due to the tertiary consequences of the mass adoption of the personal car


Imagine saying this with a straight face and actually believing it lol
Posted by hojo
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2005
1366 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:25 am to
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Is the logic that difficult to follow?


Yes it is. It's an excuse. I live in a southern state in a smaller city where there is almost no commute or superfluous time in a car, and the amount of people here that are, shall we say, less than active, is profound. If you want to live an active lifestyle, you will.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:27 am to
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More government is never, ever the answer.



We use imminent domain daily to support the car first lifestyle. Arguing the 'more government' in either direction on this topic is flawed.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102524 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:27 am to
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You immediately went to race in a thread about urban planning lulz.


Puerto Rican isn’t a race though
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:29 am to
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Stop trying to force YOUR ideology on others. I don’t force anything on you.


Who said anything about FORCING anything on anyone? Link to where I advocated doing anything by force?

I am merely discussing urban planning and pointing out how decisions made in the 1940s and 1950s are causing negative consequences today.

Posted by Death Before Disco
Member since Dec 2009
6457 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:30 am to
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Arguing the 'more government' in either direction on this topic is flawed.
I literally said “more government is never the answer”. How did you interpret that as arguing for more government?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102524 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:30 am to
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Private auto travel is more expensive to tax payers and the individual. Most of us do not account for this though.


Thing is we will still need the roads private auto use for commerce. How else you gonna ship food, fuel, products, raw materials from rural America to the cities? How you gonna get produce from California to New York? Trains and Planes are way more inefficient and expensive than over the road trucking
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:30 am to
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TackySweater


Oh look another poster with no valid arguments or counterpoints.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78302 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:32 am to
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I literally said “more government is never the answer”. How did you interpret that as arguing for more government


Sorry, I didn't interpret that as you arguing for more government. Merely saying both avenues involve 'more government'
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13610 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:33 am to
These same people who want to stop us from driving and live in the city have instituted policies that ruined cities.

The left ruins cities.
People move out of cities.
The left complains about people living in suburbs.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15471 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:33 am to
If you want to ride your little bike everywhere like a toddler, feel free.

I'll ride in a nice air conditioned luxury vehicle.

You do your thing, I'll do mine?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:33 am to
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embrace the train, bikes, and mixed use developments and neighborhoods.


Maybe if public transportation wasn't so shitty and dangerous, more would.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9763 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:34 am to
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Trains and Planes are way more inefficient and expensive than over the road trucking


Do you have a source? I am curious to see the stats and data on this.

Most in this thread are completely ignoring all the costs of personal autos in the discussion as well.

Needing a car to survive in American cities in yet another tax on everyone. It's curious that our resident car lovers never acknowledge this fact.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29729 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:34 am to
Yup I’m gonna run my car and my gfs car and my boat all weekend idle just to piss off OP
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:34 am to
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Cars are killing us and making us poorer and unhealthy.


Projection.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:36 am to
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These same people who want to stop us from driving and live in the city have instituted policies that ruined cities.


Its a pseudo religion for them. They're not happy with their participation, they want to force you into it as well.

They can't understand how someone can be relatively healthy and happy while riding cars and living in peace, because they're failures of humans.
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