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re: Youth baseball: bat that maximizes swing speed or biggest bat they can manage?

Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:58 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:58 am to
You want to focus on solid contact which means a light bat. It’s not like your average 7 year old is hitting dingers or even over the outfields heads.

It’s much better to be average to light than average to heavy.

You can also choke up on a bigger bat which makes it lighter and shorter. But I always hated to choke up I liked to feel the end of the bat.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108523 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:01 am to
Best hitter on our team used a 25” bat with a choke up knob
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29606 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:08 am to
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You can also choke up on a bigger bat which makes it lighter and shorter. But I always hated to choke up I liked to feel the end of the bat.


My kid’s the same way. He tried choking up a couple times but went right back to the end and tells me he doesn’t like choking up.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29606 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:08 am to
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Best hitter on our team used a 25” bat with a choke up knob


An inspiration to little people everywhere.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:11 am to
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An inspiration to little people everywhere.
He is a big 7 year old. Dad played college ball at Tulane too

You hoenstly sound like you are compensating for something by trying to have your 7 year old swing a big bat. It’s weird
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29606 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:22 am to
Talking about bats that don’t exist, do 25 inch bats exist outside of tee ball bats?

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You hoenstly sound like you are compensating for something by trying to have your 7 year old swing a big bat. It’s weird


I think you have it flipped. I’m fine watching my little kid look like a little kid slightly struggling to handle a bat and not having the prettiest swing, whereas those in your camp want to see the prettiest, most effortless swing as though your kid already has a “professional” hitting style. Who’s compensating here?
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108523 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:31 am to
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Talking about bats that don’t exist, do 25 inch bats exist outside of tee ball bats?
Yes, marucci makes multiple as do others



Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29606 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:02 pm to
Unless the kid stays disciplined, I could see an undersized bat also leading to mechanical issues. If you’re able to flick the bat with ease using just your hands/arms, you could drift away from using a proper full body swing.

The larger bat requires the kid to be strong in his core and lower half and utilize them to get the bat around while staying balanced.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:06 pm to
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Jon Ham

You sound like a typical helicopter parent.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108523 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:16 pm to
A15oz bat is exactly half of what college players use

7 year olds are far weaker than half of a college player so what makes you think 15oz is far too light?
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:20 pm to
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He has to really make a point to keep his elbow up so it doesn’t fall back in his stance, and he sometimes falls off balanced when swinging


You bought him a bat so heavy that he can barely hold it up and almost falls down when he swings it? And you thought that was the better choice?

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if he’s late or missing the ball due to the extra weight and length of the bat, then he needs something he can control better.


This, absolutely.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:27 pm to
We just got ours the new DeMarini Zen. It has a lot of pop. The Hype Fire is already yesterday's news.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
7630 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:31 pm to
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First off, never buy your kid a fricking bat. Let the other parents be those idiots


Words to live by here. My son always scores bats from kids on the team that get bored with theirs and press mom and dad into a new one.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
Member since Apr 2022
952 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 3:05 pm to
Dude, just get your kid a decent bat that's correctly sized so he can go enjoy playing baseball as a kid. He's not getting called up to the show. This kind of detail should MAYBE start coming into play in late JHS
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120218 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 3:08 pm to
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Geez.... when I was 7, the coach had a green bag with 2 or 3 bats in it and you got whichever bat wasn't being used.


And now these parents are shelling out $400, $500 a bat every several years.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
2889 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:23 am to
When I was in LL, I used a wooden bat from Sears. Still waiting for my callup....
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:26 am to
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We just got ours the new DeMarini Zen. It has a lot of pop. The Hype Fire is already yesterday's news.


Good bat. Zen is more durable, but it’s has less pop than Hype Fire and Rawlings ICON. Better than Marucci X.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23391 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:29 am to
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could see an undersized bat also leading to mechanical issues. If you’re able to flick the bat with ease using just your hands/arms, you could drift away from using a proper full body swing.


lol, now you are pulling shite out of your arse to push your kid to buy a bigger bat that he’ll grow into.

A 7-12 year old has very little strength and bat speed compared to a big high schooler and beyond.

Hell I remember playing my freshmen year and I was amazed at how far some of the seniors could hit it. I was stoked to hit it over our 285 left field wall and they were hitting 400+.

A 7 year old isn’t hitting home runs. You want them to make great contact to hit it through the infield. The better their bat speed the more likely that is.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:16 am to
Why did you start this thread? Despite pretty much every poster telling you that you made a mistake you are simply trying to argue to justify your bad decision,.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29606 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 8:47 am to
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Why did you start this thread? Despite pretty much every poster telling you that you made a mistake you are simply trying to argue to justify your bad decision,.


I find it interesting that almost all the bat sizing guides are suggesting 27-28”, the survey I posted earlier shows a good majority of 7 year olds use 27”+ bats, but the baseball dads online think that’s too big and I’m the “wrong” one for going with 27”. The burden should really be on those saying I’m wrong to provide evidence that isn’t just anecdotal. I have the “mainstream” position here.

Even beyond that general disagreement, I find the topic of bat sizing strategy interesting.
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