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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by The Quiet One
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:33 pm to
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Let's say that I actually haven't seen the curvature from the window seat of a high altitude transatlantic flight. If the Earth was flat, international travel would take WAY longer. I'm trying to think of the most relevant example - I'm guessing it would be going from Australia to Chile or something


Anyone that's been in a plane above 25-30,000 feet has probably seen the curvature of the Earth. Fly across the Pacific Ocean and notice your flight from LA to Seoul isn't a straight line. Not that hard to figure out. From a flat-Earther perspective, all those planes are flying hundreds of miles out of their way.

Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Let's say that I actually haven't seen the curvature from the window seat of a high altitude transatlantic flight. If the Earth was flat, international travel would take WAY longer. I'm trying to think of the most relevant example - I'm guessing it would be going from Australia to Chile or something.





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Can't you see the Curvature from an Airplane?

No. Even if the Earth was a globe this would be an impossibility. We have testimonies from several pilots saying that no curvature can be seen at Commercial Airline heights. It has been suggested that airplane windows serve to distort the view of passengers and make them believe they see curvature when indeed there is none. This was likely a ploy by early airline companies to sell more tickets.
Posted by Amazing Moves
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:51 pm to
Both are flat out stupid.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:57 pm to
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No. Even if the Earth was a globe this would be an impossibility. We have testimonies from several pilots saying that no curvature can be seen at Commercial Airline heights. It has been suggested that airplane windows serve to distort the view of passengers and make them believe they see curvature when indeed there is none. This was likely a ploy by early airline companies to sell more tickets.


Holy shite that is golden.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:59 pm to
John Glenn said he could see up under the oceans and mountains half the time he was orbiting
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:02 pm to
Anything you can think of that site has already come up with a retort for it. Bad retorts? Probably, but you can still learn something from it, even if it is just a lesson in rhetoric.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:05 pm to
Is the /r/flatearth sub mostly full of trolls at this point? I'd really like to understand this mindset, particularly what they believe is to be gained by duping the world at large in to believing we exist on a spheroid instead of a disc.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 7:06 pm
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:06 pm to
GumboPot would use some shitty link to push conspiracy theories.
" it's there. Read it dammit. It's true!"
Posted by Collegedropout
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:11 pm to
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Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.


1 Chronicles 16:30

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The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Psalm 93:1

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Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

Psalm 96:10

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Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Psalm 104:5


Only with some serious, serious denial could a "Creationist" claim that The Bible describes The Earth as being anything other than flat.



Posted by Collegedropout
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:15 pm to
LINK

In this thread multiple pilots say you have to go VERY high to see the curvature. I guarantee higher than you have ever gone on a plane.

What you think you saw was likely a fisheye type effect from the windows.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:16 pm to
Pilots and scientists alike admit that commercial plans never fly high enough to see a curvature.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:20 pm to
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There is absolutely Zero proof either one is 100% fact.


Way more than 0 proof. Keep trying.

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Yet they both argue, with the Evolution people being the worst.


Because the Evolutionists are fricking right and anyone who disagrees is delusional or stupid.

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I came from my daddys ball sack and mothers fertile eggs.


Oh shite, my daddy came!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:23 pm to
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particularly what they believe is to be gained by duping the world at large in to believing we exist on a spheroid instead of a disc.


Or why the Southern Hemisphere isn't 3 times the size of the Northern if what they're saying is true.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:23 pm to
I believe the bible describes it as being spherical in the Old Testament, iirc
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:39 pm to
This just in: the Earth is really fricking big. Much bigger than a basketball.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:52 pm to
I just kind of assume that the whole thing is a troll/joke. I don't think that I can actually believe that anyone is being serious about flat earth. Even in that website in the FAQ section it has this question:

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Are you serious?

Yes.


And I still think that they are joking.

But anyway, this is at least the official flat earth society's websites answer to your question why.

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Why Would People Lie About The Shape Of The Earth?

There are three common explanations for this, but in the end without toppling the Planar Conspiracy there is no real way to know.

To Maintain Legitimacy: During the Cold War we faked the moon landing. Shortly after they realized the reason they could not reach the moon was due to the flatness of the Earth. They were stuck in a lie, and had to continue it or lose legitimacy of our governments. Even today we would still hold onto this lie due to role Science plays in our ruling government.
To hide the truth of the Bible.
To Gain Power and Money: By siphoning off the space budgets and denying the world the resources of the Antarctic they gain a considerable amount of power and wealth.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 7:55 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:58 pm to
That's Maturin.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:04 pm to
How would a flat-earth believer explain circumnavigation?
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:07 pm to
Deism? I think if you forced me to subscribe to a religious theory, that's where I lie.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:09 pm to
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How Can One Circumnavigate The Earth?

Circumnavigation of the Earth is simply travelling a circular path around the North Pole.
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