- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
You think you are uncomfortable with a Nurse Practitioner or CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist)…
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 2:58 pm
How about knowing that if you have open heart surgery, the person running the heart/lung bypass machine (Perfusionist) isn’t a doctor. It’s someone with a 4-year degree and then some special training. On one of my son’s rotations, he watched a heart surgeon throw a perfusionist out of the OR for not keeping proper flow going. Apparently, it’s common for heart surgeons to be unhappy with perfusionists.
16
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:01 pm to auwaterfowler
I mean, you could have just posted this in the other thread.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:02 pm to auwaterfowler
Everything depends. Sometimes doctors suck at things that techs/nurses etc are far better at because that’s all they do/trained for.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:03 pm to auwaterfowler
We need more threads about this
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:03 pm to auwaterfowler
Did we really need another thread on this?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:10 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
How about knowing that if you have open heart surgery, the person running the heart/lung bypass machine (Perfusionist) isn’t a doctor. It’s someone with a 4-year degree and then some special training. On one of my son’s rotations, he watched a heart surgeon throw a perfusionist out of the OR for not keeping proper flow going. Apparently, it’s common for heart surgeons to be unhappy with perfusionists.
Your son is full of shite…. No way a CT surgeon throws a perfusionist out during a case… If this did happen did he say who operated the hear/lung pump? Because the surgeon or OR rn didn’t… and the hospital doesn’t have a staff of perfusionist ready to take over…
So the nurses and respiratory therapist who take care of pt’s post ops aren’t Dr’s either….
Hate to break it to you, but a scrub tech usually has a two year degree.
This has to be the dumbest take on bitching about medical care I’ve ever heard.
You do realize CRNAs and Perfusionist have been around for years, this is nothing new….
This post was edited on 3/20/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:13 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
On one of my son’s rotations
Was he sweeping the floors or emptying trashcans?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:17 pm to auwaterfowler
Oh no, a Dr got mad? I’ve never
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:17 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
You think you are uncomfortable with a Nurse Practitioner or CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist)…
I love whoever gives me the Micheal Jackson cocktail
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:21 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
Apparently, it’s common for heart surgeons to be unhappy with perfusionists.
Everyone knows this.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:30 pm to auwaterfowler
You obviously haven’t been to many cases.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:33 pm to auwaterfowler
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:40 pm to auwaterfowler
im fine with it as long as that is all they are doing. Rather have a specialist trained on it than someone who is trained in various things
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:42 pm to auwaterfowler
You and your son sound like fricking idiots.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:49 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
he watched a heart surgeon throw a perfusionist out of the OR for not keeping proper flow going.
Unless there happened to be 2 perfusionists in the OR who ran the CPB? It isn't like they have several of them sitting on the bench waiting to sub in.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 3:59 pm to Hangover Haven
quote:
You do realize CRNAs and Perfusionist have been around for years, this is nothing new….
My grandmother was a CRNA in the 50s.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 6:30 pm to auwaterfowler
The perfusionist ..?? That motherfricker had one job...
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:44 pm to auwaterfowler
quote:
How about knowing that if you have open heart surgery, the person running the heart/lung bypass machine (Perfusionist) isn’t a doctor. It’s someone with a 4-year degree and then some special training. On one of my son’s rotations, he watched a heart surgeon throw a perfusionist out of the OR for not keeping proper flow going. Apparently, it’s common for heart surgeons to be unhappy with perfusionists.
In the 80's, it wasn't unusual for the perfusionist to be a respiratory therapist trained "on the job". Not often the case at this point. Now, there is often a CCP (certified clinical perfusionist) accompanied by a perfusion tech (often a specially trained RT or RN) on complex cases- so two perfusion types on one case.
I've seen a lot of tantrums and tension in the cardiac OR, but even the most talented heart surgeon can't operate and manage the pump simultaneously. So unless there was another pump jockey in the room, that's a highly unlikely scenario. More likely there was some issue with the cannula or cardioplegia apparatus that the surgeon sent the perfusionist to fetch a substitute before the patient was on cardiopulmonary bypass- when the heart is still pumping on its own. Cardiac surgeons are pretty reliant on perfusionists and vice versa- it's not common for them to be at odds. At least not on my 40 year rotation.
Probably just another case of a rookie not knowing what they were looking at and yakking about their big adventure after seeing open heart surgery for the first time.
So, how about getting back to us when he knows WTF he's talking about.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News