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re: You have 24 hours to hide & If u stay hidden for a week you get $1 billion. Where do u go?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:12 pm to LSUintheNW
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:12 pm to LSUintheNW
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How would you know my general point of entry?
You don't really need to. I assume you live in the Pacific Northwest which, admittedly, is probably the most conducive region of the country for hiding out and not being found. But, I still think you would be found within a couple of days.
Between military, law enforcement, and other air support with thermal imaging capabilities, the entire region would be canvased within a few days.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:19 pm to LCA131
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I doubt seriously you have explored many places and found cool places to hide without telling some folks about it.
The really cool places, yes I've talked about them. You've made a good point. I guess there's only 1 way to know for sure.
I'm starting to rethink what I would do. The woods would be involved but an exit point would happen.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:20 pm to LSUintheNW
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How would you know my general point of entry?
That's a good question. Generally would use camera systems and cell phone data (maybe obtained illegally) to pin point your location at 0 hour. Then track your movements from hour 0 to 24:00 as best I could.
Honestly a person's movements in the first 24 hours really determine if they have any realistic chance at staying undetected.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:23 pm to IAmNERD
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Some woman here Alabama got lost for over a week in some woods after a car wreck. Nobody found her until she stumbled across some highway.
It wasnt a car wreck, she was with two dudes robbing some house and claimed she got scared of the dudes she was with and just ran off, claimed she stripped butt arse naked bc she was scared they would spot her red shirt.
Definitely some thing fishy about that story and ole girl didn't seem right in the head anyway.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:27 pm to UpToPar
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I assume you live in the Pacific Northwest which, admittedly, is probably the most conducive region of the country for hiding out and not being found. But, I still think you would be found within a couple of days.
You assume correct. I have lots of area to find cover. Whether it's WA, OR, ID, MT.
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Between military, law enforcement, and other air support with thermal imaging capabilities, the entire region would be canvased within a few days.
Guess I need to make things more problematic for you by being in the woods yet still close to a lot of people so a lonely heat source isn't discovered.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:29 pm to NOLALGD
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Generally would use camera systems and cell phone data
You would know where I've been but my phone is the first thing I get rid of.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 12:59 pm to jeffsdad
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Yep, and tracking dogs...might not take even 24 hours if they know what woods you are in.
Exactly. All these people that think they are hiding in the woods are very naive.
Maybe if they don’t know what woods you are in.
So you would have to get to that location without a trail, that is the key. That’s why I like the idea of taking a boat somewhere, it’s basically untraceable and then you can sink the boat
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:06 pm to LSUintheNW
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You would know where I've been but my phone is the first thing I get rid of.
That is essential to any plan, the moment your 24 hours start you turn off your phone. The problem is that still gives everyone a point to start tracking you. Most people can't get that far in 24 hours undetected without a great plan. And if you screw up once by getting caught on a camera somewhere that narrows your window a lot more.
Its doable, but you need to have a great plan and not one slip up in that first 24 hours.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:08 pm to Wonderboy
Deep in the spillway and stay at my house boat. Easy money there
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:09 pm to LSUintheNW
quote:Do you know how to avoid thermal cameras?
Because I know the woods, where to hide, and how to survive.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:10 pm to NOLALGD
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That is essential to any plan, the moment your 24 hours start you turn off your phone.
Nope, I would buy a bus ticket, hide phone under bus seat, get off the bus, and head in the opposite direction
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:12 pm to shel311
hiding for a year is probably the better question. a week wouldnt be too hard.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:13 pm to Jumbo_Gumbo
quote:I'm amazed that folks think they'd never be caught in a place or a thing that they own.
Deep in the spillway and stay at my house boat. Easy money there
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:17 pm to Wonderboy
I've done a damn good job of losing myself in the French Quarter for longer than 24 hours, so that would be a good start....
Possibly Orleans Parish Prison. No telling who is actually booked in there. They don't even know. The problem would be getting out...
Realistically, probably an abandoned mine where thermal imaging from the air couldn't detect me. Take a 5th of half gallon of some good booze, and put my arse to sleep so I'll stay put, and bam, there is 1 billion big ones for just doing my thing...
Last, underwater. Go grab 30 hours of air tanks and hit some body of water. Maybe the bubbles would tip someone off, but it could work...
Possibly Orleans Parish Prison. No telling who is actually booked in there. They don't even know. The problem would be getting out...
Realistically, probably an abandoned mine where thermal imaging from the air couldn't detect me. Take a 5th of half gallon of some good booze, and put my arse to sleep so I'll stay put, and bam, there is 1 billion big ones for just doing my thing...
Last, underwater. Go grab 30 hours of air tanks and hit some body of water. Maybe the bubbles would tip someone off, but it could work...
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:19 pm to shel311
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Do you know how to avoid thermal cameras?
Think cold thoughts?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:34 pm to shel311
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Do you know how to avoid thermal cameras?
No, but I'm learning now. I just read that...
quote:I knew snow insulates but didn't realize it could cover up your heat.
Snow is a great insulator, so if you dig a snowhole in a drift, then shelter inside that, you’ll be very well concealed.
And....
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If you’re deep enough in the woods you’re also safe from detection – from ground level, at least. An airborne thermal camera, looking down, can see through a light forest canopy. On the other hand, old trees with a dense canopy can conceal you from all but the most sophisticated military imagers.
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If you’re in the woods, a shelter with a roof of branches and dense brush will dramatically reduce the range you can be detected at; if you can put a layer of soil on top you’ll cut it even more.
I guess it depends on what time of year this happens.
Reading about the snow cave reminded me of this recent story. mobile LINK
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Abandoned Snow Cave Found at Mt. Hood Meadows
Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:47 PM by Meadows Team
Categories: StrangerThingsInside MeadowsSeymour Sasquatch
Following Tuesday’s wild weather, a Mt. Hood Meadows avalanche rescue dog discovered a cave near the base area. Enzo uncovered a snow tunnel that led to an actual underground cave. The cave appeared to be abandoned, but may have been occupied recently.
Tree branches were arranged into a make shift bed, there was a dwindling supply of huckleberries that must have been harvested over the summer and a Mt. Hood Meadows trail map. There was also some fur left behind, which Meadows is sending out for DNA testing. Resort officials are not alarmed, but surprised that someone (or something) could have been potentially dwelling so close to the base area of the resort, undiscovered.
I've spent a weekend snow camping on Mt. Hood learning how to make a snow cave. Fun stuff. An elaborate one takes some work.
Imagine skiing all day then quietly retreating to your snow cave for a week.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 1:36 pm to LCA131
I think that leaving the cell phone behind or trashing it is a waste of misdirection. Go back to my plot a couple pages.
I would enter the airport and get my phone onto some kind of outbound flight.
That’ll buy you at least a few hours while they search.
I would enter the airport and get my phone onto some kind of outbound flight.
That’ll buy you at least a few hours while they search.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 2:05 pm to TIGERBAIT84
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I think that leaving the cell phone behind or trashing it is a waste of misdirection. Go back to my plot a couple pages.
I would enter the airport and get my phone onto some kind of outbound flight.
That’ll buy you at least a few hours while they search.
This is a fun suggestion, I think the issue is how effective will be the misdirection be, especially if you are wasting 2-4 hours on it vs using that time in transit to an undetectable location.
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