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re: Years after the adoption of Common Core, ACT scores are lowest in over a decade

Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by tigerinthebueche
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:31 pm to
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You have no idea what you're talking about



right back at you teach. From the collegiate level to grammar schools, libtard SJW educators advocate that standards be lowered to accommodate the kids who can't keep up. Test scores are consistently reduced to the lowest denominator in an effort to help the dumber shits along. And they offer excuses about socio economic factors or personal trials as the reason those lower achieving students need a break.
Blow your myopic view of educators and education out of your arse. Its not accurate.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:43 pm to
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I did really well in school, and I'm big time against lengthening the school year. More time should be spent becoming well rounded in athletics, culture, and society instead of learning how to become a machine.

We function at higher levels and retain more when not burnt out anyway. I would advocate for more of a college like system for all kids, go about 8 weeks and take about 2 weeks off year round continually changing material.


I absolutely agree and many schools are trying different types of course schedules to replicate the collegiate 8 week model.

I grew up poor and in gov't owned housing but my school district was very well funded. I credit my parents and the school district for instilling the values that helped us work our way out of poverty. "School" had many shapes and forms depending on what type of person you were.

The Highest performers had demanding coursework producing IVY leaguers

Average students like me had a wide variety of topics and courses that covered many areas of interest including music, drama, and art. Not just classes but those courses would put on community events showcasing the talents of their students.

More blue collar students spent 1/2 day in school and the other 1/2 at a vocational training center teaching welding, auto repair, crane operations, and other technical skills.

Active Learning is the key. When i say more school days, I don't neccessarily mean more days sitting passively at a desk.

Most students spend their Summers sitting passively at home
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
57784 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:44 pm to
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The teachers in PhD fields of the humanities are all SJW, but they’re preaching to the choir, so why wouldn’t they be.


That's not the teachers who we're talking about here, as this all goes back to common core.

I know that my personal experiences don't mean that SJW teachers don't exist, but the post was about Lafayette parish. I can't imagine that there are a very large number of SJW teachers in that parish, but I can't say that from my own experience.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:45 pm to
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I know that my personal experiences don't mean that SJW teachers don't exist, but the post was about Lafayette parish. I can't imagine that there are a very large number of SJW teachers in that parish, but I can't say that from my own experience


Still doesn't mean they don't exist and are influencing the standards and material you are subject to teaching.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
57784 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:50 pm to
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From the collegiate level to grammar schools, libtard SJW educators advocate that standards be lowered to accommodate the kids who can't keep up. Test scores are consistently reduced to the lowest denominator in an effort to help the dumber shits along. And they offer excuses about socio economic factors or personal trials as the reason those lower achieving students need a break.


Again, I don't know any teachers who feel this way. We're sick of the bar being lowered. Students are not held accountable for anything as it pertains to their education, and neither are parents. It's difficult to get many of our students to even bring materials to school. We, however, are not the ones who have created these enabling policies. That would be your elected officials and central office administrators.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69914 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:52 pm to
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More time should be spent becoming well rounded in .... culture, and society instead of learning how to become a machine.



no thanks. i'd rather my kids have a job when they grow up and be able to provide for their own families.
Posted by Hammertime
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:53 pm to
The normal way people learned how to do math was that students learned the foundational concepts, and each student adapted their own methods to solve problems.

Common core requires shortcuts instead of fundamentals. Students are punished for not using the shortcuts. That gets rid of the opportunity kids have to let their minds solve problems the way they naturally would. When you have complex problems, the kids are fricked, because they have to break them down into many different shortcuts instead of running through the fundamentals and solving.


Everyone knew this was bad. It isn't a shocking revelation
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:53 pm to
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Most students spend their Summers sitting passively at home


What about the ones that don't?

Places like Finland are going toward less structure, less classtime with better results. I don't think increased class time will make a big difference. Education encompasses way more than classrooms.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:53 pm to
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no thanks. i'd rather my kids have a job when they grow up and be able to provide for their own families.



Those things will get you excellent jobs. Go to any big professional service firm and act like a cletus and see if you get hired.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:55 pm to
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I don't think increased class time will make a big difference


It'll make it worse.

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Education encompasses way more than classrooms.



Classrooms are for mesmerizing neccissary fundamentals to get through life. Actual education comes from real world application and experience.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69914 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:55 pm to
great advice. i work for a Fortune Top 5....5, not 500. Thanks tho, Cletus.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Roorda called the results “a red flag for our country, given the growing importance of math and science skills in the increasingly tech-driven U.S. and global job market.”


Fake news. Globalism is dead. Science is bunk.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:56 pm to
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i work for a Fortune Top 5....5, not 500. Thanks tho, Cletus.


And I run them so congrats on writing my fees.

Also just because you install equipment for Verizon doesn't mean you are some integral part of its operation
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69914 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:58 pm to
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And I run them so congrats on writing my fees.



yeah, bullshite. Get off your phone and get back to flipping burgers Jerome.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:59 pm to
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yeah, bullshite. Get off your phone and get back to flipping burgers Jerome.


4 of the 5 are my clients so chances are your bosses are paying me to fix what your dumbass fricks up
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56970 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 12:59 pm to
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We teachers

Thank you for your service
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69914 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:01 pm to
yeah, bullshite.

i suppose you also are waiting on your jet to be refueled before you fly home to bang your OT 10 side piece, while your OT 9 wife fixes your dinner.

not to mention that 36" vertical and 9" dong. congrats.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30939 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:02 pm to
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i suppose you also are waiting on your jet to be refueled before you fly home to bang your OT 10 side piece, while your OT 9 wife fixes your dinner.


Nah, just eating lunch that your employer is probably paying for
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98442 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:04 pm to
Your client huh?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108313 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:04 pm to
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We teachers told everyone we knew that it was a bad idea. Of course, policymakers never listen to us.


It wasn't just teachers. It was Neanderthal conservatives also.
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