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re: WWII: Would You Choose the Pacific or Europe?

Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:47 pm to
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It happened to the USS Indianapolis right after she delivered the A-Bomb to Tinian.

That's it. You have hear the first hand account. It will send chills up your spin. The guy telling the story is Maurice Bell and he's from Mobile Alabama. Here's a snippet from the Mobile Press-Register but the documentary provides much more detail
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In a 2007 Press-Register interview, Bell recalled being a seaman first-class aboard the Indianapolis when the heavy cruiser was struck on the bow by a Japanese torpedo: "Sunday night, just a few minutes after midnight, there was a loud explosion. That was the first thing we knew about a submarine."

A second torpedo smashed into the ammunition supply.

With its 1,197 crewmen and officers, the Indianapolis -- which had transported the first atomic bomb to the U.S. airbase at Tinian Island -- sank in about 12 minutes.

The next five days, as Bell explained, were a nightmare, with men dying from drowning, exposure and shark attacks.

Only 321 would be pulled out alive.

Bell told of men going "out of their head" -- some who tried to drink the seawater thinking it, in their delusions, to be fresh water, others who floated off alone. "I swam out 20 to 30 feet and got ahold of one man and brought him back in. A shark could have got me," he said.

Bell had not talked openly about the horror until 35 or 40 years after returning home.

This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 7:50 pm
Posted by cdaniel76
Ponchatoula
Member since Feb 2008
19783 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:54 pm to
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I've been on a WWII binge lately and just finished watching Band of Brothers. Prior to Band of Brothers, I re-watched Ken Burns, "The War" (both of which I highly recommend).


HBO did a follow up series to "B.O.B." called "The Pacific" in 2010, I think. I just finished watching it. I highly recommend that!!!
Posted by Macphisto
Washington, DC
Member since Jul 2005
5951 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:56 pm to
Europe.

The Pacific War Online Encyclopedia chapter on medicine

quote:

It was fortunate that medical care had so improved, because the Pacific was an extremely unhealthy place. Along with the obvious hazards of combat, soldiers in the Pacific faced the dangers of malaria, dengue fever, and other tropical diseases, which were transmitted by mosquitoes and other arthropods. Contaminated water could cripple combat units with various forms of dysentery. So could poor field sanitation. In an environment swarming with exotic microbes, even slight wounds stood a good chance of rapidly becoming infected. The wet climate meant that clothing, and particularly footwear, were waterlogged for long periods of time, which encouraged trench foot and the fungal infections known as "jungle rot."


This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:58 pm to
Europe. frick those hot-arse volcanic islands and fighting those insect-like borg-like, alien Japanese.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71040 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:01 pm to
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English whores
French Whores
Italian Whores
German Whores

vs


filipino ladyboys


its not even close


Don't leave us hanging like that.
Posted by cdaniel76
Ponchatoula
Member since Feb 2008
19783 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:03 pm to
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English whores
French Whores
Italian Whores
German Whores

vs


filipino ladyboys


After the battle of Guadalcanal, the Marines got dumped in Australia and them women down under threw it all over them boys!
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22967 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:03 pm to

Europe. They didn't have to invent flame throwers to fight the Euros.
Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger
Member since Dec 2012
12343 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:05 pm to
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After the battle of Guadalcanal, the Marines got dumped in Australia and them women down under threw it all over them boys!


Australian women are beautiful but that was just one instance. Every time the Americans liberated a city in Europe the local women threw it all over them.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:06 pm to
Europe and its not up for debate.

Much better chance of making it out alive.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:08 pm to
Pacific but just cause I was a Marine.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73599 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:09 pm to
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They didn't have to invent flame throwers to fight the Euros.


Actually they kinda did....



(Those are German soldiers using flamethrowers on the Western Front during WWI.)

The Germans also used them in WWII...


As for the flamethrowers in the Pacific, Japan used them against our boys as well...
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196540 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Don't leave us hanging like that.
its not obvious ?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33321 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Europe, Those japs scare the shite out of me.


Oh yes
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 8:11 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:13 pm to
Hmmmmmm......if I was planning on living, and banging hot broads, I would pick Europe but if I DGAF and just wanted to kill everyone and "smack a Jap" I would pick the Pacific. So basically now I would pick Europe and 18 yr old me would me in the Pacific.
Posted by Slima
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2006
136 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:13 pm to
Pacific Theater

Specifically I'd want to be aboard a ww2 diesel submarine. Let's say somewhere directly post-pearl harbor when emotions are running high for unrestricted submarine warfare and we are just itching to raid commerce shipping to their supply lines.

Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:17 pm to
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The Bataan Death March,


How do 76,000 WW2 soldiers surrender at the same time? I mean think about that #, that is just cowardly!
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:18 pm to
Europe.

The story of the USS Indianapolis sinking has always freaked me out. I couldn't imagine a more horrifying way to die.

The Battle of Iwo Jima is also incredible.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:19 pm to
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How do 76,000 WW2 soldiers surrender at the same time? I mean think about that #, that is just cowardly! 



MacArthur was a pussy.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73599 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Europe and its not up for debate.

Much better chance of making it out alive.


Not really. Here are the stats for the divisions that lost the most men in the Med & Europe...

3rd Inf: 25,977
9th Inf: 23,277
4th Inf: 22,660
45th Inf: 20,993
1st Inf: 20,659

Here's the top 5 for the Pacific
(Army)
7th Inf: 9,212
96th Inf: 8,812
77th Inf: 7,461
32nd Inf: 7,268
24th Inf: 7,012

(Marines)
1st Mar Div- 19,284
4 Mar Div- 17,722
2nd Mar Div- 11,482
3 Mar Div- 8,676
5th Mar Div- 8,563


LINK

LINK


ETO was actually more bloody than the Pacific division by division.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 8:24 pm
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Might sink and get eaten by sharks. Happened to quite a few.




GTFO Roger. Like 10 people a year die of shark attacks worldwide!
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