re: WTF happened to JonBenet?

Watch the A&E report. takes an hour or so. Basically everything the cops said was a lie.

Foot prints in the snow....there was almost no snow.

Prior sexual abuse, medical records showed had vaginal bacterial infection. When one of cops experts here's this he retracts opinion.

Leaving on plane...Bull shite.

No way intruder could get into house, not only bullshite, they do it right on the show.

Missing for hour and half, bullshite.

died from blow to head, bullshite, she has scratch marks on her neck where she was trying to get rope off her neck.

Hispanic unknown DNA on here underwear and panties? Cops say irrelevant.

Stun gun marks on her neck and body? Cops say ignore

Suitcase by the window. say what?

Footprints under the grate? Cops say huh?

They are weird mfers, and the note is really bizarre, but the boy didn't kill her. could not have unless he can change his DNA.

Any cop that questioned their guilt was put off the case, their own expert told them it was intruder they fired him. DA would not indict because he know he would lose his arse, probably not even get to a jury.

BamaChick already pointed out how much bullshite was in the A&E doc the first time you brought it up.

I've watched the puff pieces on both sides, CBS, A&E, Dr Phil.

I don't care what anybody says, that interview they did the week after on CNN or whatever, John and Patsy are lying their arses off when they answer the question, "Are you fully convinced that your daughter was kidnapped by some outsiders outside your family or circle of friends?" The killer on the loose answer. If you can't tell they are lying, you have blinders on.

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that could be nothing more than him dealing w/a sudden rush of emotion caused by him remembering how his dead sister used to really like pineapple.

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Can't be that because he didn't even know what was in the bowl. He was trying to figure out what he could say to take the focus off the pineapple(that he knew was in the bowl)and he came up with cereal lol. That little dude is smarter than people want to give him credit for. Creepy for sure but smart too

As I said before about that A&E "documentary" -

That "documentary" was produced by Mills Production and along with Michael Tracey - who was shown in this "documentary" as an unbiased "expert - have a long history with John and Patsy Ramsey and have been proven to have included lies and distortions of this case in their FOUR previous "documentaries" on the Jon Benet case.

That Dutch "DNA expert" that was interviewed in the A&E "documentary"?

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"A Denver prosecutor got Eikelenboom to admit that he had no direct DNA extraction or analysis experience, that he operates a lab that has not been accredited, that he personally failed his basic proficiency texts in 2011 and 2012, and admitted that he was a 'self-trained' in running DNA profiles," the DA's office said.

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The DNA test mentioned over and over only used four markers, instead of the standard 13 - they left that tidbit of info out.

Basically, that A&E "documentary" was absolute, utter, biased garbage.

Please look up the history of John and Patsy Ramsey, Michael Tracey, and Mills Production before you call someone else an idiot. Idiot.

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If Lou Smit said they didn't do it, that is enough for me and everyone in law enforcement I have ever known. He was that fricking good.

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Please post the theory of Lou fricking Smit? I'll be waiting. That crime scene was so fricked up before he even got there. His investigation was done after 20 fricking people roamed around the house. He can't dismiss the letter,the cob webs, the stun gun(which he thought was true and proved not to be), the pineapple, the 911 call. Nothing! Lou Smit may be a good investigator but this was not his from the get go like most are. He had no control over it

I REALLY wish they had gotten Fleet White to appear on camera.

Here is an interview with The Whites from 2014.

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In the last few months, though, the Whites have become far more outspoken in their long quest for answers. They have been emboldened by the release late last year of documents indicating that in 1999 the JonBenét grand jury had voted to indict John and Patsy Ramsey on a charge of felony child abuse resulting in death and on an accessory charge; Hunter declined to sign the indictments, which remained a secret for more than a decade. The Whites have gone to court, seeking to get still-suppressed pages of those "true bills" released. They have appeared before the Boulder City Council, seeking other documents related to the case.

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The Ramseys maintained that it was the Whites who broke off contact. For a little while, the Whites continued to receive little notes and cards from the Ramseys, but nothing they regarded as a serious invitation to get together. Priscilla noticed that Patsy's handwriting was different, altered in several respects from what it had been before the death of JonBenét.

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Even as the police struggled to process a crime scene they'd failed to control, the hunt for evidence began to bog down amid procedural and legal hurdles. It was months before investigators were able to obtain the clothing the Ramseys had worn the night their daughter was killed, and even longer before they could get access to the parents' phone records and credit-card bills.

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(That right there is some horsehit!)

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Some prosecutors believed the detectives were too fixated on the parents as suspects and failed to adequately explore other leads. Cops accused the DA of being too chummy with (or intimidated by) the Ramsey legal team, too quick to share evidence and lab results with the Ramsey legal team, depriving the police of any tactical advantage.

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As the Whites saw it, various entities connected to the case had strong reasons for delaying a grand-jury investigation. Hunter, whose office rarely went to trial on homicide cases, was just one. Lockheed Martin, one of the state's largest employers, was another. The company had been attempting to sell Access Graphics at the time JonBenét was killed. Any risk that the company's top executive would be facing a possible indictment would not have helped the divestment plans.

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(Never knew about the Lockheed Martin angle. Could definitely see that having an influence on a DA worried about politics and reelection funds.)

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They [Fleet and Priscilla White] bent the ears of CU's Board of Regents about Michael Tracey's biased documentaries.

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(That's they guy behind the A&E "documentary".)

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In 2006 it led to creepster John Mark Karr, a teacher in Thailand who was fascinated with the case. Karr struck up an anonymous, online relationship with documentarian Michael Tracey and, in a flood of e-mails and phone calls, fine-tuned a confession to the murder he'd been working on for years. With the aid of Smit and other investigators, Tracey reeled Karr in. Boulder authorities flew him to Colorado amid much hubbub and expense. A few days later they released him, amid much ridicule and disgust, when it turned out that his DNA didn't match the underwear sample and that Karr hadn't even been in Boulder at the time of the murder.

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(Michael Tracey. Again. So unbiased. )

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Since it was issued, Lacy's exoneration has been routinely cited in most news stories about the Ramsey case, usually in a way that implies the Ramseys have been positively and unambiguously "cleared by DNA." But Kolar considers the letter to be misleading at best. It fails to mention that investigators also found unidentified DNA from two males and one female under the victim's fingernails -- samples too tiny and badly degraded to put into a database or even determine if they came from blood or skin tissues. They also gathered additional samples of DNA from two males that came from the cord and garrote used in the crime. None of these samples match each other or the touch DNA obtained from the clothing.

"DNA can be very helpful in any criminal investigation, but it needs to be looked at in the context of all the other evidence," Kolar says. "If you look at all the trace samples involved in this, if you follow the DNA evidence solely, then we should be looking for six perpetrators, not one."

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(Yep. That DNA "evidence" is so rock solid.)

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Stun gun marks on her neck and body? Cops say ignore

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Those were not stun gun marks

The CBS crew stunned a person on the show, and the marks looked nothing similar to JonBenet. Nothing

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I REALLY wish they had gotten Fleet White to appear on camera.

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As do I. He was in the basement alone not long after he arrived and even claimed to walk into the wine cellar, but couldn't find the light. It makes me wonder if he noticed something he didn't report or only thought to be suspicious later.

The Lockheed Martin part is certainly interesting, too.