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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:21 pm to GumboPot
Trust me, if ivermectin worked, we'd have gladly used it.
Hcq and azithromycin didn't work after the Italy paper came out showing decreased viral load which proved false.
Ivermectin doesn't work either.
Remdesivir may or may not
Toci is promising but it's still being studied.
Dexamethasone (oh look a cheap drug) based on the recovery trial shows efficacy tho.
Hcq and azithromycin didn't work after the Italy paper came out showing decreased viral load which proved false.
Ivermectin doesn't work either.
Remdesivir may or may not
Toci is promising but it's still being studied.
Dexamethasone (oh look a cheap drug) based on the recovery trial shows efficacy tho.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 6:18 am to TheChiefHasArrived
Exactly why you should never take an economist’s medical advice. What ulterior motive did these guys have for publishing such misinformation?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 6:22 am to BusterW
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Downvoters Ya’ll are part of the problem, you’ll be the first to ask for when you get in the hospital. But will you be in a hospital that won’t give it to you. That’s a question you should ask yourself. I got mine
The chances of me being hospitalized with covid are the same as me getting struck by lightning twice while on the way to cash in my back to back winning powerball jackpots
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:12 am to htran90
Genuinely curious: when was Ivermectin actually trialed clinically? Azithro+Hydroxychlor certainly was, but not the ‘mectin that I recall.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:39 am to TigerBreath78
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shell01 - I read the abstract. Thanks for waiting.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:40 am to hubertcumberdale
quote:A study they used was retracted.
Yeah the data they used was totally BS but the point still stands... lmfao
The other data stands
Were this a CDC article, they would have doubled down rather than retract.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:46 am to Roaad
Well Roaad did you YOU read the study?
I'll give everyone here the cliffnotes. The study that TigerBreath posted as "proof" only shows a difference in viral clearance (time to test negative) on RT-PCR. Every other parameter measured, you know, the clinically meaningful ones, did not show any benefit to ivermectin vs placebo or ivermectin+doxy vs placebo.
I'll give everyone here the cliffnotes. The study that TigerBreath posted as "proof" only shows a difference in viral clearance (time to test negative) on RT-PCR. Every other parameter measured, you know, the clinically meaningful ones, did not show any benefit to ivermectin vs placebo or ivermectin+doxy vs placebo.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 7:50 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:54 am to shell01
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I'll give everyone here the cliffnotes.
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Virological clearance was earlier in the 5-day ivermectin treatment arm when compared to the placebo group (9.7 days vs 12.7 days; p = 0.02), but this was not the case for the ivermectin + doxycycline arm (11.5 days; p = 0.27). There were no severe adverse drug events recorded in the study. A 5-day course of ivermectin was found to be safe and effective in treating adult patients with mild COVID-19.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 7:58 am to shell01
quote:Contradicting studies and trials only underscores the need for larger trials and studies.
I can do this all day Roaad...
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I can do this all day Roaad...
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 7:59 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:00 am to Roaad
Lol you posted studies from Bangladesh and Egypt.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:07 am to hubertcumberdale
quote:I posted studies currently on the NIH website, yes
Lol you posted studies from Bangladesh and Egypt.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:10 am to GumboPot
It always about money
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:17 am to Roaad
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I posted studies currently on the NIH website, yes
Why are Egyptians manipulating data? What is their motive?
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Writers Missed Ivermectin Study Retraction
We, the authors of “Why Is the FDA Attacking a Safe, Effective Drug?” (op-ed, July 29), have egg on our faces. Relying on a summary of studies published in the American Journal of Therapeutics, we quoted the results from a study of 200 healthcare workers. After our article was published, we learned that this study, by Ahmed Elgazzar of Benha University in Egypt, has recently been retracted due to serious charges of data manipulation.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:32 am to Warfox
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Genuinely curious: when was Ivermectin actually trialed clinically? Azithro+Hydroxychlor certainly was, but not the ‘mectin that I recall.
There was a trial of 500 patients, randomized double blinded trial to see if it would prevent hospitalizations. it actually caused earlier invasive mechanical ventilation. it is limited in study, but its one of those trials that actually was randomized, blinded, and showed no benefit.
meta analysis are poor indicators of success (which is seemingly every other paper right now since people LOVE to just theorize and make publications).
But lets be honest --- if ivermectin worked, it'd be used worldwide where medicine is completely different (they don't get the fancy tocilizumab)
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 8:05 pm to GumboPot
Shhhh orange man still bad,
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