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re: WSJ: The U.K.’s Healthcare System Is in Crisis; 500 die every week due to treatment delays
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:40 am to member12
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:40 am to member12
If you have money in the UK you can buy private health insurance and go see private doctors and get any treatment you want if you pay for it.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:42 am to lsuhunt555
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You’re telling me that the government running something is incompetent?
Just like our military. Ask people in the military and vets. The money that is wasted in the service would shock people. We could easily cut the defense budget by 5% and still be as safe and have the best military in the world if the military would actually sometimes make common sense decisions about spending.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:43 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:44 am to Bronc
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Also, not the best argument when America is one of the only countries currently with a declining life expectancy and one of the lowest in the developed world....
This has nothing to do with healthcare.
It has more to do with overweight, drug addicted, smoking, diabetic, opiod addicted, inner city gun violence etc.
There is a lot more of these issues in the US than Finland or Japan. There are groups in the US who just don't live that long.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:45 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:45 am to Klark Kent
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Klark Kent
Good old Klark missing the boat as usual.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:45 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Just like our military. Ask people in the military and vets. The money that is wasted in the service would shock people. We could easily cut the defense budget by 5% and still be as safe and have the best military in the world if the military would actually sometimes make common sense decisions about spending.
I think anyone who has ever spent time working for a defense contractor could testify that the amount of government waste in our defense sector is staggering.
The fact that the term "butts in seats contracts" exists and is thrown around as often as it is is one of the reasons I am exceptionally cynical around how our taxpayer money is actually spent.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:48 am to whatiknowsofar
not even clever.
you think your comments and opinions in this thread have been impactful or thought provoking?
you think your comments and opinions in this thread have been impactful or thought provoking?

Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:49 am to Bronc
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Almost like the combo of subsidizing easily accessible junk food, low wages and long hours, a country that is set up for vehicle commuting and not walking, and poor access to the healthcare system might have something to do with so many people living unhealthy lifestyles?
People need to start taking responsibility for their own actions. I work a "low wage, long hours" job and still find time to exercise and eat relatively healthy food. As a result...I am not a statistic. Because I am not a statistic, I can go an entire year or more without needing to go to the doctor to get healthcare treatment.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:51 am to Klark Kent
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not even clever.
you think your comments and opinions in this thread have been impactful or thought provoking
You think you're accomplishing anything by posting a dog getting his head pat? Dissenting opinions turn you into a petulant child seeking joy only for himself. It's kinda sad Klark
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:52 am to RollTide1987
Bingo.
"Everyone is a victim" mentality leads to a major dumbing down of the population. Blaming systems for shitty behavior leads to more shitty behavior.
Progs are data junkies and see everything in systems. Your individual needs are not important.
"Everyone is a victim" mentality leads to a major dumbing down of the population. Blaming systems for shitty behavior leads to more shitty behavior.
Progs are data junkies and see everything in systems. Your individual needs are not important.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:52 am to RollTide1987
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People need to start taking responsibility for their own actions. I work a "low wage, long hours" job and still find time to exercise and eat relatively healthy food. As a result...I am not a statistic. Because I am not a statistic, I can go an entire year or more without needing to go to the doctor to get healthcare treatment.
I think people need to be properly educated on what healthy living looks like. I know plenty of people that think a Gatorade with 34 grams of sugar, is a healthy alternative to soda.
People have obscene caloric surpluses and macronutrient imbalances in their diets and live sedentary lifestyles in America and I think ignorance is often just as much to blame as laziness.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:53 am to Upperdecker
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Private healthcare will always be too expensive for middle and lower class
No, it won't. If we quit dumping trillions of dollars into the medical industry via Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare/Prescription Drug Benefit/etc you'd be amazed how affordable health care would be. It's almost like leftists and Above the Fray! moderates on here don't have the slightest clue about how basic economics work. Those programs haven't done a damned thing to make health care more accessible and affordable. All it has done is made a lot of doctors very wealthy.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:55 am to EarlyCuyler3
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I love it when people that don't work in healthcare are experts on how it works
I am expert enough to realize with single payer there will be more people getting "free healthcare" while I pay the bill through higher taxes.
That is the rub here.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:58 am
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:57 am to frogtown
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I am expert enough to realize there will be more people getting "free healthcare" while I pay the bill through higher taxes.
They are entitled to the fruits of your labor, baw.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:57 am to member12
It'll be OK. That wasn't real socialized medicine. Next time it will be different.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:03 am to Bronc
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Good luck with that once you turn 70 and no insurer wants to insure you without charging you $100,000 a year. No returning soldier with chronic care needs can get coverage. And the government subsidies hiding behind your employer plan go away and you see your rates jump through the roof.
Maybe we can just do like the cult in midsommar and start throwing all the old people off a cliff at 65?
I love stuff like this. Like there is no other solution to the problem but a HUGE gov't intervention. So the answer is to ruin everyone's healthcare?
A free functioning market resolves all problems. How specifically does it address elder care? I don't know, but feel comfortable that the market would figure it out. Why? Because consumers would demand it.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:05 am to Scruffy
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The US population is so unbelievably unhealthy that any system would break under its weight.
If you want a good healthcare system, fix the population first.
One way to start doing this is to reform the food stamp program the government runs. You know, the same government that these Marxist want to run healthcare
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:10 am to frogtown
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It has more to do with overweight, drug addicted, smoking, diabetic, opiod addicted, inner city gun violence etc.
Where I live, it provides villagers a weekly trip to Juneau complete with hotel and transportation. The expense has to be ungodly.
They certainly aren't any thinner and healthier.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:14 am to 777Tiger
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our current system is FUBAR, largely due to the insurance industry
So just the insurance industry’s fault and nothing to do with an unhealthy, obese population and millions of illegal aliens coming from 3rd word shitholes? Ok, sure
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:14 am to Aubie Spr96
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A free functioning market resolves all problems. How specifically does it address elder care? I don't know, but feel comfortable that the market would figure it out. Why? Because consumers would demand it.
You understand the reason we have the VA, Social Security, and Medicare is specifically because the "market" failed to provide an acceptable solution and people got increasingly pissed off, right?
Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:14 am to Bourre
Might be the best part of the thread. Everything in his post he is bitching about the government has their entire hand in controlling it. But now he wants that same entity to take over healthcare
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