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re: WSJ/NYT - US & Israel Strike Tehran

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Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:49 pm to
It's telling that the Iranians who are in support of Trump, Israel's, and America's actions and celebrating the destruction of the Islamic Regime have no problem with having their faces seen by the world, but those who are "Mourning" the Ayatollah are masking their faces.




Why are they scared to let the world see who they are? Especially if they believe that they are on the right side of the issue?
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:50 pm to
Landshark still bleeding all over this thread?
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:50 pm to
I think this has been posted, but I just had the time to actually watch it. Rubio condemning Obama’s Iran deal back in 2015.

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Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:51 pm to
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:52 pm to
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Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:52 pm to
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Landshark still bleeding all over this thread?
Yeah he's trying but we've been drowning him out.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 5:56 pm to
Rubio was right. That deal should never have been made.

Thanks for the updates.
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Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 8:56 pm to
That should be enough to frighten every other military in the world: while carrying on a major offensive against one of the most "feared" military powers in the world, we have entire carrier groups doing routine training exercises.
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 9:09 pm to
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Rubio was right. That deal should never have been made.


The JCPOA was designed to dramatically reduce Iran’s enriched uranium and stop further enrichment.

The IAEA confirmed that Iran was compliance when Trump decided to unilaterally pull out of the agreement. No more enrichment and Iran doesn’t get a nuke.

Obama negotiated an imperfect agreement that stopped Iranian movement towards being a nuclear power. Trump tore that up and is no attempting regime change with a new war.
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:25 pm to
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Trump tore that up and is no attempting regime change with a new war



That the Iranian people were begging for.


They asked the world for help because the Islamic Regime was massacring them for protesting.

Trump stepped up and promised that help was coming.


Two "protesters" in Minnesota get killed by federal agents while trying to attack them and the world pulls their hair out while screaming about "fascist" authoritarian over reach.

Yet everyone stayed quiet and averted their eyes while 50,000 protesters were killed in Iran over a 2 week period.


America and Israel promised the Iranians that help was coming and they kept their promise.




I'm okay with fighting a war for that.


ETA: It should be telling that the only countries that are condemning this are the BRIC nations that relied on Iran to supply them with cheap oil.
This post was edited on 3/6/26 at 10:30 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/6/26 at 10:47 pm to
That is a good statement of that side of the argument. I'll go with the other in a rather simplified way.

Obama was the last in a line of presidents that let Iran keep pushing with little repercussion. I'm a Reagan Republican but I am willing to concede that he enabled the regime. Him not unleashing the military in 1983 and then rewarding hostage taking when his administration covertly armed them (while supporting Iraq publicly) is a black eye for him. The western world then let them operate in the background for 20 years while being tied up in other parts of the sandbox. Every president from Carter to Trump 47 contributed to what led up to last year's bombing.

If you look at what Trump has done overseas it's something that could elevate him up that list of great presidents in 50-75 years. Just in the middle east he was able to bring Israel and formerly hostile countries together with Iran being the common enemy. It's part of why you have countries willing to shoot down missiles headed for Israel rather than just MYOB.

Let's be real, Iran was going to go nuclear with or without any agreement. All the JCPOA did was slow it down. The fine line now is knowing the precise moment to stop before the region plunges into a series of civil wars. We are close to that point if Iran stops firing missiles.

We do not need to be putting more US boots on the ground in another middle east war. I believe most Republicans and the MAGA wing would agree about that. Only the warhawks want that.

ETA: Bombing to help even the playing field for Iranians was the right thing to do after promising them help. We do not need to be playing in the sand ever again.
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:17 am to
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Posted by RIPMachoMan
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:39 am to
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A truly evil incarnate man. I guess the consolation prize for me is he will one day die completely alone with no family or friends around him before Satan calls him home. He will probably go down as the single most despised politician of his generation, and well deserved.



damn man went for it there.

But you can’t convince me otherwise the reason he loves war in Arab nations and hates Putin/Russia is bc of how they treat gays.

That dude is about as straight as a drunk arse walking a line in a sobriety test
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:39 am to
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Obama negotiated an imperfect agreement that stopped Iranian movement towards being a nuclear power.


bullshite it did. Who was doing inspections to make sure it was being upheld?
Posted by RIPMachoMan
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:41 am to
The UN…
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:42 am to
Go play in traffic
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 3/7/26 at 12:46 am to
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He will probably go down as the single most despised politician of his generation, and well deserved.



Bold claim when he is currently in the same Congress as:

Marjorie Taylor Green
AOC
Jasmine Crockett
Maxine Waters
Nancy Pelosi
Mitch McConnell
Ilhan Omar




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