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re: WSJ "Article" Blames men for dating problems.

Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:28 am to
Posted by TigerCoon
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:28 am to


Here's a pic of of the beauty who wrote this story. She can't understand why the boys don't come around.

woof
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:33 am to
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The people who are coming from Latin America, beyond the highly-skilled, are nowadays more frequently from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and to a lesser extent, Nicaragua. Venezuela is one to keep an eye on, as that country is a total disaster and there is a huge diaspora in neighboring countries already.


If there's one thing people can take from current illegal immigration it's that the countries that are supplying the people are not replacing those people.


In other words, they're running out of people to send and once those immigrants reach the US their offspring are having less children with each generation.


Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:49 am to
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But why do guys suck these days?


Chicken or the egg kind of a thing.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:50 am to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:53 am to
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Gee, lady, why do you think men might feel attacked? Do you think maybe it's because feminism has been attacking men and masculinity for decades now?


Camille Paglia agrees
Posted by Limitlesstigers
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 11:56 am to
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Everyone in Hammond paid more for transmission repair and service because ONE spoiled niece felt entitled to a man too handsome and a salary too high.
I work in the recruiting business. A little under half of my clients are small companies and you're 100% correct. There's a lot of family owned businesses who will hire a young female family member as an office clerk and they end up getting screwed over or the girl is very entitled and incompetent. A lot of them will throw away a resume if I refer a girl under 35.

Young American women are quite possibly the most privileged demographic in the entire world but are among the dumbest and least competant.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Young American women are quite possibly the most privileged demographic in the entire world but are among the dumbest and least competent.


Suggesting that a young woman (I'm not talking about you older ladies and I'm not minimizing the shite you took in the workplace back in the day) educate herself in a topic or attain a higher level of competence will typically be seen as a toxic male aggression. It's been taught to her since birth that she's a perfect little princess. And men of course, are barbaric shits and their time is up. The Barbie movie made that clear, girlfriend. You see, she has arrived WHOLE, she is perfect as is, IG has affirmed that 15 times before breakfast dummy, and you need to acknowledge her awesomeness. It's not only that they given themselves a non-existing "right" to be less competent, but also that any suggestion they resolve this is portrayed as a toxic male provocation. So men keep their mouth shut and make sure to finesse it on her behalf like a proper gentleman when she takes some key project into the abyss.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:20 pm to

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Here's a pic of of the beauty who wrote this story. She can't understand why the boys don't come around.


It’s actually different than that. She’s claiming that the majority of males can’t figure out how to establish a connection with the average girl. The boys are coming around, but they’re too inept to form relationships.

Meanwhile, girls of her sexual value insist on having this or nothing:

This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:30 pm to
That guy fricks. I can only imagine how often he says no to sad lonely hearts who themselves ignore all those male 6's out there who make 75k a year and drive cheap sedans. They'd MUCH rather get their turn with him then take some guy "beneath" their golden standards.

By the way, the male issues self-help guy quoted in the OP to bolster the author's narrative is a young ridiculously handsome actor who is married to a Swedish model. lol. I would suggest it helps to have a guy who actually deals with these issues to explain these issues and not a guy who bangs super models.
I mean let's all gather to hear Jeff Bezos talk about the joy of clipping coupons, right?
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:31 pm to
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ll the unraveling happens when women can’t escape their own neurotic need to overthink.


You hit the nail on the head here. This is why women don't want overly "nice" men. It's exhausting enough being in our own heads. Women want strong, capable, decision-making men with an even temperament.

The modern women's movement has emasculated men from their true purpose, which at the heart is to protect and provide for a wife and family. Women, at the heart of it all, serve to support their husbands and care for their offspring and home.

I'm not saying women can't work or that men have to get married to have value. I'm just saying that building families is what we're wired for, and when we buck that system too much, everything feels off.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:39 pm to
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building families is what we're wired for




Isnt the exact opposite true ? Im being serious , ive always heard/read, if we are talking about “wiring”- that since cavemen days, men were wired to roam around impregnating as many fertile women as possible… while women were wired to find the most physically impressive specimen , or the specimen with the most assets, to father her children (hypergamy).. to be crystal clear for those with reading comprehension problems like Saint Alfonzo - im not claiming any of those things to be “healthy”, just that that is what we were hardwired and programmed for .



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This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 12:41 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:39 pm to
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I'm not saying women can't work or that men have to get married to have value. I'm just saying that building families is what we're wired for, and when we buck that system too much, everything feels off.


Not really. We're wired to do exactly what is going on now. Our inate biology is just on steroids now with technology. Building families is good for society, but it goes against our biological natures. Men and women have to have the self-restraint, and society promote and entitle, to build and maintain families. That's the part that government and society have de-centivized and why we're seeing so many social issues now.
Posted by HouseMom
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Not really. We're wired to do exactly what is going on now.


Then maybe our evolved intelligence tells us that animal tendencies leave us emotionally drained as a society. I don't think all of these men with several baby mamas and random kids everywhere are very fulfilled. Just my two cents.

Humans are supposed to be superior to animals. We are supposed to out think our physical desires. It's also why everyone is so danged fat now. Why credit card debt it out of control. Nobody has any self-control.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:54 pm to
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Humans are supposed to be superior to animals. We are supposed to out think our physical desires. It's also why everyone is so danged fat now. Why credit card debt it out of control. Nobody has any self-control.


Because we don't have to anymore. Government is there to provide a safety net. And we're no longer allowed to "judge" those who practice self-abusive actions. Doing the healthy thing is hard. Humans will always take the path to least resistance. Our social contract helped keep everyone in line. But we've been sold a bill of goods by corrupt politicians and people with radical political and social agendas.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:56 pm to
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By the way, the male issues self-help guy quoted in the OP to bolster the author's narrative is a young ridiculously handsome actor who is married to a Swedish model. l


Lol, I can't imagine listening to some metrosexual film industry dude from LA about "male issues".


No one should listen to anyone who spends their lives in LA or NYC. Those cesspools are where all this nutty shite started and they wreak of it.


Eta: that podcast is mega cringe.

Its another desperate attempt to provide feminized solutions to male problems.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 12:59 pm to
I think you are both correct. Men do seek to spread their seed in the evolutionary biological sense. It's just that the most highly valued men generally choose to do it within the most honored and respectable social institution we have, which is marriage and family.

FTR, I have read that the amount of men in human history that have actually reproduced is somewhere just north of 40%. That means that it is just reality that the vast majority of men have been unsuccessful in passing on their genes. Failure to reproduce is hardly new. And high-status men have always monopolized sex. People think Vikings risked it all for gold. Not so.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:03 pm to
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Meanwhile, girls of her sexual value insist on having this or nothing:


Hence why the gym and tattoo businesses are booming
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I have read that the amount of men in human history that have actually reproduced is somewhere just north of 40%. That means that it is just reality that the vast majority of men have been unsuccessful in passing on their genes. Failure to reproduce is hardly new


I agree with your larger point, but does that factor in people who died before becoming adults?

That is a really significant percentage of human history up to 1900 and even up to 1950, if we factor all of the young men who died in wars.

With almost non-existent infant mortality, minimal deaths from disease because of vaccines and Penicillin, etc thar number is next to zero nowadays.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:14 pm to
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have read that the amount of men in human history that have actually reproduced is somewhere just north of 40%



Wow.. not doubting the veracity of ur statement, since i havent researched it like you apparently have- but im shocked it’s that low.. im guessing theyre including, like, male babies that died in childbirth.. or male kids who have died from leukemia et al ? Becuase i realize many people used to die young, but crazy if true that the percentage is that low.. i mean, throughout human history as you said, versus this century where i could totally believe it’s 40% .
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 1:17 pm to
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It's just that the most highly valued men generally choose to do it within the most honored and respectable social institution we have, which is marriage and family.


Yeah don’t think we’re talking about the most valued men out there really struggling… it’s the men a tier below them but a tier above a lot of others
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