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re: WSJ "Article" Blames men for dating problems.

Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:35 am to
I think some of your complaints are just a result of increasing affluence.

More people can afford to go to the beach, more people can afford to travel somewhere 15-20 miles away on their day off (or 2-3 hours away).

It’s kind of like the arguments from people who live in desirable cities and complain about the number of tourists. What was once a rare luxury is now relatively commonplace.

It’s even more extreme if we are talking about desirable cities abroad.

Europe’s population is declining but touristic areas are more popular than ever. This isn’t overpopulation but a) increasing affluence and b) I think what Tigger was saying about the organization of the population
Posted by OlGrandad
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:36 am to
If this has been posted, I apologize.

When this guy couldn't figure it out there is no way I can.
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Freud would later say that women were largely "a dark continent." "What does woman want?" he asked. He never found a satisfactory answer.

LINK

Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:40 am to
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I'm sorry, I could have sworn you were crying about being inconvenienced by other people existing in "your" space and then reflected on conversations where people were discussing who should live or die because the human population is, IYO, unsustainable. What deep concept did you espouse that I missed?



Thanks for proving my point about your lack of reading comprehension- since if you go back and re-read my post, anyone with half a brain can see that i was referring to PAST THREADS ON THIS VERY SITE where people discussed population control and too many people being concentrated in one place, or how only “certain demographics” should be allowed to have large numbers of kids, et al…. I feel truly sorry for you that you felt the need to come after me as if those were my thoughts.. please go bitch and moan somewhere else.. or just stay here and do it, i dont really care .
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:44 am to
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Freud


A lot of his stuff has been dismissed. He comes and goes in vogue in the psych world. And no one has all the answers.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:45 am to
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Freud would later say that women were largely "a dark continent." "What does woman want?" he asked. He never found a satisfactory answer.



I know what women want. They want to elevate their emotional journey through life to the center of every person in their circle. It’s not narcissism, it’s solipsism. A man sees his emotions the same as his words; as soon as he utters them, they vanish into the ether. A man realizes the transitory irrelevance of his emotions. To him, they don’t even really exist. That bridge exists. This hamburger exists. A woman is highly likely to elevate her emotions above all else. And I mean ALL else. Her emotions are not only her reality, they must become Yours.

This is why from now on I only date dedicated Buddhists, lol. So we can live somewhere other than in her head.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:46 am to
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A lot of his stuff has been dismissed. He comes and goes in vogue in the psych world. And no one has all the answers.


Freud is definitely still prominent in people's minds
...especially when you try to reduce complex issues down to pure sexual instincts like Freud does.
But you're right his theories have been thoroughly debunked and discredited


My favorite is when there's a school shooting and everyone immediately claims it happened because the shooter couldn't get laid...sad people are this stupid.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:46 am to
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accounts focused on incels


sure they are
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:48 am to
Like I said earlier, work on your personality and being funny. (Not aimed at the person I'm replying to, I was just bored and did some reading earlier.)

PsychToday Article

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Humor and intelligence

“Laughter is the shortest distance between two people.” —Victor Borge




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Studies have found that those with a strong sense of humor have higher intelligence than less funny people, and suffer less from depression and aggression. Laughter may have a serious impact on us all; it changes our brain in a manner that makes us wiser, more friendly and more satisfied with our lives (Willinger, et al., 2017; Dowthwaite, 2017).

Self-humor and an ability not to take ourselves too seriously, involve self-confidence, humility, the capacity to see alterative perspectives and respecting others.




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A study has shown that actively funny men are three times as likely to receive a phone number from women than men with a passive sense of humor (Geher & Kaufman, 2013).
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:50 am to
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Thanks for proving my point about your lack of reading comprehension- since if you go back and re-read my post, anyone with half a brain can see that i was referring to PAST THREADS ON THIS VERY SITE where people discussed population control and too many people being concentrated in one place, or how only “certain demographics” should be allowed to have large numbers of kids, et al…. I feel truly sorry for you that you felt the need to come after me as if those were my thoughts.. please go bitch and moan somewhere else.. or just stay here and do it, i dont really care .


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i dont think that fewer people overall is a bad thing….


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There are simply way, way too many people..

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WHO we want breeding, and who is entitled to survival,

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but the bottom line is that the planet currently has 8 Billion people on it, and it’s unsustainable IMO .

What part of what you wrote wasn't presented as your thoughts on the matter? Are you using "I," "we," and "in my opinion" differently than everyone else?
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
4724 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:55 am to
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What part of what you wrote wasn't presented as your thoughts on the matter? Are you using "I," "we," and "in my opinion" differently than everyone else?



Jesus Christ dude.. you are stupid, but at least you know how to cherry pick .. Here ya go:


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Now we can have conversations , and there have been many conversations on here about exactly WHERE these huge populations are living and WHO we want breeding, and who is entitled to survival, while the rest die off etc etc etc




If you cant see that that is me clearly referring to past posts, and what others have said here- then i genuinely cannot help you .

Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 9:58 am to
That image kinda proves her point
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:01 am to
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That image kinda proves her point


Her point is that the male loneliness epidemic is a male problem. There’s little if any consideration that the change in societal norms may be inflicting harm on average men.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19844 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:02 am to
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My daughter is 18 and says that so many of the boys/ young men are either extreme hammerheads or like toddlers who throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way.


Sure. A lot of guys suck. That’s what sparked the OP article.

But why do guys suck these days? Can your daughter explain that?
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25890 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:03 am to
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If you cant see that that is me clearly referring to past posts, and what others have said here- then i genuinely cannot help you .

My apologies, Mr. Gates, I didn't mean to misinterpret your poorly written screed about how you feel there's too many people in the world.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40652 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:13 am to
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There’s little if any consideration that the change in societal norms may be inflicting harm on average men


I'll admit this. No, there's not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:13 am to
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Spain and Italy are the two exceptions to the this, and I’m not sure what the hell is going on there.

They had bad economies before the 2008 crash when the PIIGS formed. Youth unemployment is insane and bad economic outlooks = fewer children in developed countries, especially if they're relatively socially conservative (and they're 2 traditional-catholic countries). They both have like 1.5 lost generations B2B
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:17 am to
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I'll admit this. No, there's not.

They revel it in as sort of a revenge fantasy for feeling like the patriarchy killed every woman for all of human history.

The problem is, leaving men depressed with no path to romance-paid bonding in the current situation, will often not lend itself to a peaceful acceptance of that current situation. We're the sex that goes to war and commits atrocities when we get too frustrated, and women in developed countries spiking the football on men have gotten far too complacent with a feeling of societal security.

That's why they run to frame this issue dishonestly in terms of only sex and rage, and ignore all the nuance and reality.

Let me be clear, I'm not defending violence, but I just understand human biology, evolutionary effects, and human history.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 10:19 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
51849 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:30 am to
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US will be up about 15 percent,


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Mexico will drop about 10 percent.


Mmmmmhmmmm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
51849 posts
Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:40 am to
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They revel it in as sort of a revenge fantasy for feeling like the patriarchy killed every woman for all of human history.


Or they view certain men as invisible (always have) and ending up with one is a fate worse than death

Too many men have married Rose from Titanic… after she was saved
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 9/24/23 at 10:41 am to


I think the Mexican arrivals in the US have actually gone down in the last few years.

The people who are coming from Latin America, beyond the highly-skilled, are nowadays more frequently from Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, and to a lesser extent, Nicaragua. Venezuela is one to keep an eye on, as that country is a total disaster and there is a huge diaspora in neighboring countries already.

I think Mexico, much like Brazil, is in that window of affluence where previous birth rates are just not sustainable.

Mexico also seems to have an obesity epidemic, which can’t help.
This post was edited on 9/24/23 at 10:42 am
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