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re: WSJ: Tariffs Won’t Sink Canadian Oil Companies

Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by BigBinBR
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:35 pm to
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which more than 80% ended up in the U.S. But the dependency goes both ways. About 60% of U.S. crude-oil imports are from Canada,


They use percentages because it skews the numbers and normal Americans aren’t good at math.

We process around 22MM of barrels a day. Of that 3.5MM to 4.5MM are from Canada.

15%-20% of total oil b/d must not have sounded as scary as 80% of the amount we import.
Posted by Rashcock
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:37 pm to
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Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:41 pm to
20 months until the midterms, when the incumbent party will face the voters

Mexico and Canada cant possibly hold out that long
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:43 pm to
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There are no winners


I bet this will age well
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:55 pm to
Why would we trust the WSJ on this topic? What should we trust this journalist to be correct?

quote:

Jinjoo Lee is a New York-based columnist for Heard on the Street covering the retail and energy sectors. Before joining the Journal, she reported on energy sector deals for industry publication SparkSpread. Jinjoo is a graduate of Cornell University, where she studied policy analysis and management. She got her first crack at journalism writing and editing for the Cornell Daily Sun.
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:04 pm to
Wow that was fast:

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Canadian food companies plan to expand production to U.S. as tariffs loom

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Flourish Pancakes and Mid-Day Squares are rare examples of successful Canadian startups manufacturing and delivering food products consumers can readily prepare and eat. But with U.S. sales either the largest or fastest-growing part of their businesses, neither believes they can withstand the 25-per-cent tariffs President Donald Trump has said are coming Feb. 1 without making changes to their operations. Canada’s second-largest pancake mix brand and a pioneer of high-protein refrigerated snacks are looking to expand production across the border to serve the U.S. market from within that country, mirroring a KPMG survey that found almost half of Canadian businesses plan to move more investment and operations to the U.S. The homegrown companies are not happy but feel they have no choice.




But I thought the tariffs were just going to make everything more expensive and hurt American consumers?
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29220 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Why would we trust the WSJ on this topic?


I don't think I stated anywhere in my OP or other comments that you should. I honestly don't know what the fallout will or could be IF these tariffs are applied to oil coming in from Canada, though if President Trump is listening to his close allies Harold Hamm and Energy Secretary Nominee Chris Wright, then whatever he decides to do here likely won't be some willy nilly thing that'll screw our country's energy needs.

I've posted articles and op-eds here in the past that I agree with, disagree with, and am neutral on. Me posting it isn't necessarily a personal endorsement (which is worth less than a grain of sand), but merely something I find interesting and am curious the thoughts of others. Plain and simple.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5901 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Do you think Mexico and Canada are doing fine? They can afford this even less.


More often than not, the side with more to lose has the greater pain tolerance.

The leader of much, much larger border nation saying you wont exist and should be annexed will really focus the senses and create espirit de corps on the home front.

The US meanwhile isn’t putting its nuts fully on the line in any way. This is a fight on convenience for the US, and the US consumer has zero appetite for price inconvenience.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
It doesn’t matter what we do to tax energy imports. Canada could tax energy exports and we’d be fricked.

They’re going to hold onto that card until trump gives them no choice.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41087 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:16 pm to
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Depends. If American production comes back on line I think we win.


Of oil?

We are already producing more than ever. A shitload more than we averaged during the last trump admin.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29220 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:19 pm to
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“Comes back online”? We are the largest producer of crude oil in the world.


Some people just parrot shite they read off a facebook meme without knowing if it's actually true or not.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29220 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:20 pm to
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It doesn’t matter what we do to tax energy imports. Canada could tax energy exports and we’d be fricked.


Possibly, but damn. Do they not want to be serious in helping us control cartel movement?

We're supposed to be allies.
Posted by TygerLyfe
Member since May 2023
3975 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
Send it. This is a fight I look forward to.
Posted by NedReyerson
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:32 pm to
America should not resort to some Westmoreland-esque half-measures in this fight. We need to bring Canada down to its knees.

In less than 1 week, I want all 10 provinces BEGGING to be brought into the USA as states.

Don't get me wrong, many Americans will be lost in this fight. But if we stick together, we can win.

Here are some recommendations:

1. Instead of P---Hub, substitute with your dad's vintage Penthouse collection.

2. Instead of Molson's Beer, substitute with cold, refreshing Florida Concentrated Orange Juice.

3. Instead of the Rick Moranis Honey, I Shrunk the Kids film series, subsitute with the American TV series starring Peter Scolari.

We can do this. We have the power. I call upon SEC parents to urge their children's universities to Disclose and Divest from Canadian companies like Royal Bank of Canada, Shopify, and Lululemon.

Together, we can beat this Canadian scourge.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:34 pm to
"Will there be some pain? Yes. Maybe, and maybe not."

Brilliant sentence there.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 2:55 pm to
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NedReyerson
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150350 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 3:25 pm to
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There are no winners
not on your team at least.



Melt day 89
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23320 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 5:14 pm to
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On paper sure. In reality the US will more than likely reverse course before the other two nations seek to renegotiate.

Wanna bet?
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10050 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:34 pm to
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There are no winners

Seems like we’re winning, LowTBoy
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