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re: Would You Rather Be Taught Something or Learn It Yourself?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:10 pm to SaintlyTiger88
Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:10 pm to SaintlyTiger88
I’m 56 and decided to take up beekeeping about 8 years ago. I read one pamphlet on beekeeping and winged it with one purchased package of bees. I now run 150 hives part time. Everything I learned was from trial and error. No YouTube videos, no mentor, no classes. Just failure after failure and then some success. Same thing with woodworking, I bought some tools and figured it out. I’m still a woodworking hack though.
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:22 am to Ron Popeil
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I’m 56 and decided to take up beekeeping about 8 years ago.
I have to ask, how many times have you gotten stung in these past 8 years?
Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:48 am to SaintlyTiger88
With some things you can only go so far self taught. I taught my self to row with a lot of videos and online resources. I'm a lot better than I was, but I still feel like my form is less efficient than it should be. I could benefit from some sessions with an in person coach but there are none within reasonable distance.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:58 am to SaintlyTiger88
I learn by doing. It ain't for the feint of heart. If I were going to jump out of a perfectly good airplane I'd want an expert on the subject to tell me how to do so and survive but if it is something that ain't going to kill me or someone else I simply do it and hope for the best. I am not interested in doing shite myself that will kill me or someone else so I seldom ask an expert. It is certainly situational though.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:18 am to SaintlyTiger88
Depends. I enjoy the learning process and figuring things out for myself. I remember what not to do a lot better if I do it and screw up 
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:23 am to BigDropper
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there's a lot of value in Autodidacticism.
Look buddy, what you do in the privacy of your own home is one thing, but don't let me catch you Autodidacting on the front porch again.
Old Lady Lundergaard almost had a heart attack last time she saw you doing it.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:25 am to Gee Grenouille
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I lose a lot of respect for people that ask for help with things that can be googled. It comes from my desire to never be a burden for people.
It's an actual workplace problem with a lot of people. It's called workplace time theft. If you ask someone how to do something, and it's not their job to help you, you're stealing their time to save yourself time instead of learning it yourself.
Wrong. If you get them up to speed faster or more efficiently you'll quickly recoup the training investment.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:36 am to Mizz-SEC
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Wrong. If you get them up to speed faster or more efficiently you'll quickly recoup the training investment.
The company is welcome to make that investment. Don't take me away from my work to make yours easier.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:46 am to Gee Grenouille
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The company is welcome to make that investment. Don't take me away from my work to make yours easier.
You know what's funny? Most of the shitheads you try to teach things to ignore it anyway since they really don't give a shite. They're there to collect a paycheck for doing only as much as they need to to not get fired.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 6:49 am
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:47 am to AwgustaDawg
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learn by doing. It ain't for the feint of heart. If I were going to jump out of a perfectly good airplane I'd want an expert on the subject to tell me how to do so and survive but if it is something that ain't going to kill me or someone else I simply do it and hope for the best. I am not interested in doing shite myself that will kill me or someone else so I seldom ask an expert. It is certainly situational though.
You're such an idiot. At least this post wasn't the usual 6 paragraphs of drivel.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 6:55 am to Gee Grenouille
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I lose a lot of respect for people that ask for help with things that can be googled. It comes from my desire to never be a burden for people.
While I get what you’re saying and understand it’s good for people to be self sufficient, a lot of people LOVE to teach things they know and desire to help others.
Also, the best way to learn is to teach.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 7:07 am to Gee Grenouille
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It's called workplace time theft. If you ask someone how to do something, and it's not their job to help you, you're stealing their time to save yourself time instead of learning it yourself.
Or, you can spend four hours executing the task that would only take 20 minutes if someone explained to you what to look out for. There is way too much shitty content of varying quality to presume you can watch two LoserTube videos and figure everything out.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 7:17 am to Gee Grenouille
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I lose a lot of respect for people that ask for help with things that can be googled. It comes from my desire to never be a burden for people.
it often takes less time to explain something to someone to make sure they understand than it does to undo and fix their frickups when google doesn’t show them the right way.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 7:18 am to SaintlyTiger88
Teach me the basics and general layout and then let me fine tune it to my liking.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 7:22 am to SaintlyTiger88
Learning something from a master of his craft, who you also like, is a wonderful experience. It's like being an apprentice and forms a bond, and is beneficial for both people, because knowledge hoarded is knowledge lost.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 8:45 am to SaintlyTiger88
depends on the type or complexity of the skill and what the stakes of the product of the result of the skill are. My career is highly dependent on both with a large number of hours logged in both camps. I don't want my surgeon learning from self-teaching alone, though reading and watching videos (much more available than when I trained with regards to availibility of video footage of procedures and simulators) is an important adjunct, can speak from experience with this being my life's work. Same goes for the airline pilot getting me from one place to another, just for two examples.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:04 am to LCA131
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You're such an idiot. At least this post wasn't the usual 6 paragraphs of drivel.
And yoo never fail to respond LOL...
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:19 am to SaintlyTiger88
I prefer to watch/listen to someone and then (when possible) let me workshop it with them. If it's a task, then doing it with their supervision/guidance. If a concept, repeating it back to them, preferably analogizing it to something I already have a strong grasp of.
The latter, by the way, makes good LLMs very useful.
The latter, by the way, makes good LLMs very useful.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:55 am to SaintlyTiger88
Over 1000 stings easily. I’ve been stung 10 times this week alone. The last time I extracted honey, I wound up with at least 100 pissed off bees inside my bee suit. I got stung at least 50 times and twice by my eye. I looked like I had been on the losing side of a prize fight. Hundreds more chased me into my house when I tried to get away. I had to hide in my bathroom for quite awhile before murdering them with an electric fly swatter. Two days later, they were calm as can be.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 3:22 am to kywildcatfanone
Welcome to the money pit
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