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re: Would you have gone to fight in Vietnam?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:05 am to retired trucker
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:05 am to retired trucker
I know. I was responding to another statement.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:08 am to TigerBR1111
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I know. I was responding to another statement.
quotes bro, quotes...
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:09 am to chRxis
Well I guess your little story makes the whole damn mess worth it.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:11 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Look at how much better off South Korea is compared to North Korea because we intervened. That could've been South Vietnam.
Ok? Look at Vietnam right now. It's hardly North Korea.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:15 am to retired trucker
You knew I was responding to you so obviously quotes aren't always a necessity.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:29 am to TigerBR1111
My class was the one of only one or two that didn't even have to register for the draft. I remember vividly as a high school freshman the conversations of the seniors who were draft eligible and their discussions of their "number".
I would have gone then because I was a 18 year old naive guy that in no way could have comprehended the evil of LBJ and what it created in Viet Nam.
Nixon promised peace with honor and immediately began drawing down troops when he got in. I suspect short of just quitting it was all he could do.
A few years ago with the archives released some LBJ tapes and I heard that SOB say in 1967 he would not be the first president to lose a war I then knew what that war was for the US. LBJ incompetence and the policies of his man McNamara got us involved with no goal or no definition of what victory would be. By the time LBJ realized the stupidity of his actions his only goal was to preserve his personal reputation.
Every vet of the War should be given free air fair to travel to his grave and p*** straight on it.
I would have gone then because I was a 18 year old naive guy that in no way could have comprehended the evil of LBJ and what it created in Viet Nam.
Nixon promised peace with honor and immediately began drawing down troops when he got in. I suspect short of just quitting it was all he could do.
A few years ago with the archives released some LBJ tapes and I heard that SOB say in 1967 he would not be the first president to lose a war I then knew what that war was for the US. LBJ incompetence and the policies of his man McNamara got us involved with no goal or no definition of what victory would be. By the time LBJ realized the stupidity of his actions his only goal was to preserve his personal reputation.
Every vet of the War should be given free air fair to travel to his grave and p*** straight on it.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 9:30 am
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:34 am to TigerBR1111
I would have reluctantly enlisted. War sucks and anyone who has ever gone to war will be the biggest opponent. With that said, when our nation enters a conflict, even if you don't necessarily agree, it is your civic duty (if you are the proper age) to join the armed forces, IMO.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:36 am to chRxis
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well, i am thankful for the Vietnam War, because without it my wife's parents, who helped the US during the war, wouldn't have ever come over here, then subsequently produced her.... she wouldn't have been in my college classes, and as such my life wouldn't be the same today... i wouldn't have the same two beautiful, awesome children i have either...
Uhh I don't believe I would repeat that too many times.
Thankful the war that killed 50,000 Americans is not a good thing to say.
You can be thankful for your wife but not the war.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:53 am to TigerFanInSouthland
The government was completely wrong to go into Vietnam and all it did was end in getting a bunch of Americans killed, all in the name to fight communism. Just another proxy war during the competition against the Soviets.
It's funny you call out liberals then have no problem with the draft. Clearly you're only a fan of small government when a suits you. Just another fraud conservative
It's funny you call out liberals then have no problem with the draft. Clearly you're only a fan of small government when a suits you. Just another fraud conservative
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:58 am to TigerBR1111
My father served in Vietnam from '68-69 and was not "scarred". Too many people have latched onto the distorted narrative portrayed in Hollywood movies that most soldiers there were poor misfits, fighting against their will.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:06 am to dawgfan24348
Depends on the year.
1965? Probably.
1969? And you knew it was pointless and hopeless? Probably not.
Protect us from a foreign invader or imminent invader? Yes. 1941 was aLONG time ago though.
You could make it an Iraq war thought too. In 2002 who would have went if drafted? Many! Many volunteered out of anger. 2006? Yeah.... Not so much.
I don't know that I can see a scenario where the draft is used again? Not with advances in technology and range of weapons. I, having never served, am talking out of my arse though. Any active or former military on here that can envision a scenario where the draft would be needed?
1965? Probably.
1969? And you knew it was pointless and hopeless? Probably not.
Protect us from a foreign invader or imminent invader? Yes. 1941 was aLONG time ago though.
You could make it an Iraq war thought too. In 2002 who would have went if drafted? Many! Many volunteered out of anger. 2006? Yeah.... Not so much.
I don't know that I can see a scenario where the draft is used again? Not with advances in technology and range of weapons. I, having never served, am talking out of my arse though. Any active or former military on here that can envision a scenario where the draft would be needed?
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:06 am to MadDoggyStyle
Glad your dad got out ok. A whole lot of other folks were less fortunate
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:18 am to TigerBR1111
Yes, I would have gone. I would not have been excited about it but I defiantly would have gone.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:28 am to TigerBR1111
How far "into it" were our naval forces? I probably would have voluntarily joined the Navy
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:29 am to TigerBR1111
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Would you have gone to fight in Vietnam?
Absolutely.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:41 am to TigerBR1111
I would have back then.....but knowing what I know now about the war.....no.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:01 pm to islandtiger
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the war was a mistake.
Vietnam, in and of itself, wasn't a mistake. The egregious error was when politicians handcuffed U.S. forces and wouldn't let them do the job they were sent to do. It's always guaranteed to be a disaster when politicians begin making military decisions instead of letting MILITARY men make those decisions.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:04 pm to MadDoggyStyle
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My father served in Vietnam from '68-69 and was not "scarred". Too many people have latched onto the distorted narrative portrayed in Hollywood movies that most soldiers there were poor misfits, fighting against their will.
Your dad turned out ok, so naturally that means surely everyone else did too. Flawless logic.
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:28 pm to TigerBR1111
In hindsight of course not.
But theIraq war was probably a worse idea in the long run... unintended consequences we'll have to deal with for decades.
But theIraq war was probably a worse idea in the long run... unintended consequences we'll have to deal with for decades.
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