re: Would you buy a KIA?

The Forte isn't being discontinued, just renamed, like the opitma to the K5. The K4 will be the new Forte, so parts won't be an issue, that's like saying a redesign for a Camry will make the older camry's have part issues. Kia's seem to be good quality cars for a lower entry fee. The Telluride has been the SUV of the year for the last 5 years.

I am a Toyota driver. I waited until I was older to buy my first Toyota. Prior to that, I was involved in a horrible crash and had to buy a car fast. I settled on a Kia Borrego SUV because it was big, and I was anxious after the crash.

That car was a tank. I purchased it with 25k on it and never had an issue. I drove the heck out of it. I loved it, but I did not want to pay the high cost to transfer it when I moved to Louisiana. I traded it for a Toyota Camry and sometimes wish I had kept it for one of the kids.

It had 100,000 when I traded it and was a great car. Yes, the seats were stiff, and the interior was a bit ugly, but the engine was great, and it stuck to the road like glue when it snowed or rained heavily.

I felt very safe in it, and it never let me down.

CVT’s have come a long long way, and as long as you change the fluid out as recommended, they are fine.

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If you look at reliability ratings, you'll find out that this thread is full of a lot of bias that doesnt match reality.

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Ideally I would find a fairly new Corolla with the 6 speed manual but they are rare. I really like driving a standard so I did a search for manual transmission cars and stubbled upon a KIA forte GT with a 6 speed for what appears to be a decent price.

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In the 90's, before they started advertising during sports, used car dealers couldn't sale them.I saw some sit on tote the note lots for over a year.Now I see them everywhere. I didn't know if they'd improved them or just learned how to market them.

When I lived in Dallas I wanted a standard transmission because I spent a lot of time on interstate hwys. Wanted to be able to speed up faster than most 4 or 6 cylinders do with an automatic. Had a job that required driving part of four states so I started out with a Sentra wagon w/5-speed. Got a Mazda MX-6 w/5-speed next. Went from that to a Civic EX with 5-speed. All were great for what I want. I almost bought a new loaded Corolla in 2015, but went with a loaded 2012 Camry instead. Still driving it and it only has 49K miles on it.

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Would you buy a KIA?

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