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re: Would cutting production of midgrade gas help with fuel pricing?

Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:28 pm to
Building engines to operate on lower octane would be.
Posted by Traveler
I'm not late-I'm early for tomorrow
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Who buys midgrade?

It is the recommended fuel/octane for my old Chevy.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:39 pm to
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When it gets really ugly the midgrade will be dropped because it won't be selling.



Mid-grade is mixed by the retail pump itself.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1043 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:40 pm to
A lot of newer mid range cars recommend 91. I'm definitely not using 93 when I don't have to.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4512 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:41 pm to
Again refiners don’t refine to 89 octane that is a blended outcome

There are many logistics that factor into gasoline blending and volumes. There are many consumer based needs for three grades of pump gasoline.
Sure just hypothetically it maybe more efficient and plentiful blending out all 89 octane gasoline. But in actuality it isn’t
Posted by Tiger2712
Member since Nov 2018
135 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:51 pm to
It’s all blended. Worked at a fuel supplier when in college. Premium and mid grade is same fuel with a gallon of additive to every 500 gallons.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:58 pm to
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Again refiners don’t refine to 89 octane that is a blended outcome


I worded poorly. I was asking could 89 be the min and max blend so all underground tanks, sans diesel, just recieve 89 and be done with it.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76014 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:03 pm to
Wouldn't really change anything

It isn't the product itself causing the high price, it is supply and demand.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2510 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:05 pm to
When I worked on product tankers (Ships) we had contracts with BP and Citgo. We transported Regular and Premium gas. Never Mid-Grade. I think it is just mixed at the pump.

Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Most stations will only have premium and regular fuel tanks, and mid-grade is blended at the pump. It can be made and delivered, but there’s no real purpose in that.


Learned something new today.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 2:33 pm to
We use mid grade for Infiniti…it calls for premium but we won’t pay for it
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:58 pm to
why is there almost always a 10 cents difference between the grades?

Doesn't seem market driven.



This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5169 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 3:58 pm to
Mid grade isn’t produced, it’s made from mixing 87 and 92 together to get the midgrade.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
41848 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 4:10 pm to
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Would cutting the production of midgrade help with more supply and helping bring down prices?


States that require special formulations create those sorts of problems. The simple grade levels are not specifically blended (or at least not back in the 90s when I did some controls work at a loading rack). THe facility had 2 grades, the regular octane level(around 87, can't recall exactly) and a super octane level because Sunoco sold something like a 102 Octane in the area (Northeast, rack was in RI). Every other Octane level anyon picked up was a mix.

Another thing was that every branded gasoline in that area loaded trucks at that rack (Mobil). Scanned a card that then supplied them with the right mix plus injected the specific additive packages for that brand. The amount of additive injected was pretty small, somewhere around 1/2 ml to a gallon of gas. For reference, 5 ml is about a teaspoon.
Posted by Bama Shadow
Member since Jan 2009
694 posts
Posted on 6/26/22 at 5:56 pm to
I wish it was just 10 cents here. My car requires premium and it's 80 cents a gallon more than regular here.
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