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Worst U.S. military leaders from each military conflict (1775-Present)
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:00 am
It's the day after Christmas, I'm bored, and I started drinking early. Obviously this list is definitive and cannot be argued with.
1. The American War of Independence: General Charles Lee
2. The War of 1812: General William Hull
3. The Mexican-American War: General Gideon Pillow
4. The American Civil War: General Ambrose Burnside
5. The Indian Wars: General Edward Canby
6. The Spanish-American War: General William Shafter
7. The Philippine-American War: General Elwell Otis
8. The First World War: General Robert Lee Bullard
9. The Second World War: General Lloyd Fredenhall
10. The Korean War: General Douglas MacArthur
11. The Vietnam War: General William Westmoreland
12. The Persian Gulf War: General Colin Powell
13. The War in Afghanistan: General Tommy Franks
14. The War in Iraq: General Ricardo Sanchez
1. The American War of Independence: General Charles Lee
2. The War of 1812: General William Hull
3. The Mexican-American War: General Gideon Pillow
4. The American Civil War: General Ambrose Burnside
5. The Indian Wars: General Edward Canby
6. The Spanish-American War: General William Shafter
7. The Philippine-American War: General Elwell Otis
8. The First World War: General Robert Lee Bullard
9. The Second World War: General Lloyd Fredenhall
10. The Korean War: General Douglas MacArthur
11. The Vietnam War: General William Westmoreland
12. The Persian Gulf War: General Colin Powell
13. The War in Afghanistan: General Tommy Franks
14. The War in Iraq: General Ricardo Sanchez
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:02 am to RollTide1987
McClellan was a puss. Burnside was awful but the two are interchangeable.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:06 am to geaux2019
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McClellan was a puss.
He loved his men too much to order them to their deaths. That is not the hallmark of a great military leader. However, he built the Army of the Potomac from the ground up and might be one of the greatest administrative leaders in American history.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:08 am to RollTide1987
so many candidates for civil war but i think pope was worse than burnside and mcclellan and burnside. burnside didnt want the job and they made him take it. fredericksburg was also a frick up because they didnt have the boats in time too.
wwii i think blackjack fletcher deserves some heat for midway and for pulling the carriers out at guadalcanal and throw ghormley in there too. halsey post 1943 is awful too.
wwii i think blackjack fletcher deserves some heat for midway and for pulling the carriers out at guadalcanal and throw ghormley in there too. halsey post 1943 is awful too.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:10 am to RollTide1987
quote:Responsible for the Kasserine Pass failure
The Second World War: General Lloyd Fredenhall
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:11 am to RollTide1987
Him loving his men too much led to other generals such as Burnside leading them to their deaths when it could have been avoidable like at Antietam.
Also, being one hell of an administrator doesn’t mean that they are a competent commander on the battlefield. Your ranking of McArthur proves this. McClellan did build the Army of the Potomac but if we are solely focusing on their choices on the battlefield then McClellan and Burnside are interchangeable.
Also, being one hell of an administrator doesn’t mean that they are a competent commander on the battlefield. Your ranking of McArthur proves this. McClellan did build the Army of the Potomac but if we are solely focusing on their choices on the battlefield then McClellan and Burnside are interchangeable.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:11 am to geauxtigers87
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i think pope was worse than burnside
Pope is up there as well. Burnside didn't want the job, it's true, but took it when it was insinuated that if he didn't take it they would offer the command to Hooker. Burnside and Hooker being bitter rivals, Burnside took the bait and accepted the command.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:12 am to RollTide1987
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General Lloyd Fredenhall
Didn’t he get relieved, but then promoted to a three star?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:13 am to JohnnyBgood
think he was put in charge of training troops in the states? i'd have to go look
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:15 am to RollTide1987
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10. The Korean War: General Douglas MacArthur
i'm the biggest macarthur hater there is but i think his best time was korea until they went north. he was the only one with the balls to do the landings at inchon.
wwii macarthur is insanely overrated too
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:17 am to RollTide1987
Benedict Arnold for the Revolutionary War.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:20 am to RollTide1987
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1. The American War of Independence: General Charles Lee
he was bad, lots of insubordination, but Benedict Arnold committed treason
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:24 am to RollTide1987
No mention of Stilwell from WWII? He should be in consideration for this. Fredenhall failed in one battle. Stilwell chased the Japanese aimlessly through Burma and China for years with no real strategy.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:40 am to geaux2019
Leonidis Polk was no military genius
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:41 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Polk*
*Johnson South
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:41 am to RollTide1987
I know you said U.S. Generals, but during the Civil War, Baxton Bragg may be in the running for the worst of the worst.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 11:53 am to RollTide1987
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9. The Second World War: General Lloyd Fredenhal
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:01 pm to RollTide1987
You misspelled Horatio Gates in the American Revolution and he had nothing to do with the Battle of Saratoga’s actual on the field strategists who were responsible for the victory. MacArthur was a product of Truman’s ineptitude as a leader as was Westmoreland under the leadership of Johnson/Robert McNamara as opposed to being poor generals. The landings at Inchon turned the tide in Korea. Westmoreland’s strategy of bombing the North and killing the VC at numbers they could not sustain did work when he wasn’t constrained by political pressure. The US would have won the war after TET had the political leadership counter attacked like he had wanted. The Viet Cong was pretty much tapped out as a fighting force in the South. The problems in Vietnam had more to do with the war itself not William Westmoreland
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:06 pm to Swamp Angel
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Stilwell chased the Japanese aimlessly through Burma and China for years with no real strategy.
It's difficult to formulate a coherent strategy when you hold three different positions while reporting to three different men.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 12:14 pm to RollTide1987
Bradley was by far the most incompetent leader in WW2 that had an real responsibilities and nearly lost the Battle of the Bulge single handily with his inability to be decisive on virtually every decision; Patton turned the tide not Bradley whom he justly viewed as incompetent as a general.
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