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re: Worst US General of all time?

Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:19 am to
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/29/19 at 12:19 am to
McClellan had a real knack for always doing the exact wrong thing requires by the situation. By far the most demonstrably incompetent general in US history. He even had the gall to challenge Abe Lincoln for president based on his own terrible record.

Horatio Gates was awful as well. Similar amount of delusion + incompetence going on.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 1:59 am to
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You call me a drunk liband I’ll call you a racist. There we go.


The point is, drunk or not, you’re fricking way off on your thoughts about Douglas MacArthur. It might even be because you are drunk.
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
8898 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:07 am to
Beauregard
Bragg
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:21 am to
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I know this was mainly directed at one person but that statement really gets under my skin. I am a liberal and earned a CIB.


Thanks for your service. I have one too...with a star, but if you support the democrat party of today, then you can promptly gfy.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 3:29 am to
Joseph E. Johnston

Had Vicksburg not fallen due to his inaction the civil war would have come to a more equatable end and that would have been much better long term for both parties.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 4:14 am to
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And I still don’t care some Japs killed your grandpa



This right here is fricked up here. People have no boundaries anymore.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21463 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 5:58 am to
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U.S. Grant


Read the biography by Chernow and you will find his faults lay not as a general but as a person (too trusting, drunkard).

Good general, poor fellow otherwise.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
68357 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:18 am to
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McClellan had a real knack for always doing the exact wrong thing requires by the situation. By far the most demonstrably incompetent general in US history. He even had the gall to challenge Abe Lincoln for president based on his own terrible record.


Just look at Antietam and that’s all you need to know about McClellan as a battlefield general.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4096 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:30 am to
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Benedict Arnold.


On the field he was good. Ethically he was a bastard.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53390 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:32 am to
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U.S. Grant


Don't let you Lost Cause hatred of the Yankees cloud your judgment. Grant's successes in the Civil War speaks for itself.

He basically won the war in both the Western and Eastern theaters.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 6:33 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30682 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:34 am to
Well Burnside did have a pretty epic stache.

So he at least had that going for him.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53390 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:35 am to
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Benedict Arnold.



On the field he was good. Ethically he was a bastard.



Instead of erecting a monument to Benedict Arnold at Saratoga, they erected a monument to his leg where he suffered a wound in the battle. Nowhere on the monument do they mention Arnold by name.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:41 am to
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Benedict Arnold


No shite. I don’t think there’s a close second.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4096 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:44 am to
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No shite. I don’t think there’s a close second.


He was a key part in the victory at Saratoga which gave the French faith that we could achieve major victories against the British on our own.
This post was edited on 5/29/19 at 6:47 am
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11578 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:51 am to
Ricardo Sanchez, bad general and a coward too.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:55 am to
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He was a key part in the victory at Saratoga which gave the French faith that we could achieve major victories against the British on our own.


He sold out the entire country though, which entirely undermined this to a glorious degree.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4096 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 6:56 am to
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He sold out the entire country though, which entirely undermined this to a glorious degree.


Except the whole point that we may have never won the Revolution without the victory at Saratoga.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53390 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 7:04 am to
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He sold out the entire country though, which entirely undermined this to a glorious degree.



True, but his contributions at Saratoga cannot be debated. There's a reason why they still chose to honor his leg at Saratoga and why they honor him at West Point simply as a "major general, born 1740".
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
121644 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 7:09 am to
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I have one too...with a star
Go on...
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/29/19 at 7:17 am to
Wes Clark ranks up there
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