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re: Woman threatens suicide, cops send SWAT team to apartment and kill her

Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:56 am to
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:56 am to
So she couldn't just off herself with her own bullets, she had to mooch off the system and commit suicide on the taxpayer's dime. Smh
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:00 pm to
Serious question, was she endangering anyone?

I mean sure once the police entered her home she was armed amd dangerous, but if a sole person is threatening suicide, why go in if no one else is threatened?

98% of the time women are looking for attention.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

While ironic and easy fodder for the cop haters, I am never sure what they want police to do in these situations. Leave an emotionally disturbed armed person alone so they can possibly kill a neighbor? Surround the house, kick all the neighbors out of their houses and then just wait forever? Send brain control waves into the house forcing a surrender?


This type of situation occurs several hundred times a month in the U.S. most don't make the news because the police departments send a couple of officers and mental health professionals, instead of a swat team.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

This type of situation occurs several hundred times a month in the U.S. most don't make the news because the police departments send a couple of officers and mental health professionals, instead of a swat team.


Its much easier to just kill them instead of bringing them back alive. Its a matter of efficiency.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:14 pm to
Happens often.

DON'T call the cops if your family member is struggling.

LINK

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An officer from the Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office and another from the Boiling Spring Lakes police department showed up to the house soon after. Eventually, a third officer from the Southport police department entered the home as well, and ordered the use of tasers to subdue Vidal. According to Wilsey, Vidal was pinned on the ground by two of the officers when a third said, “we don’t have time for this,” and shot Vidal, killing him.


LINK

quote:

The cop that fired the shots claims that Sierra had “lunged” toward him with the knife in hand, and that the shooting was justified. Witnesses have not corroborated this claim, however, and say that the officer acted rashly.


LINK

Parents of a teen killed by a SWAT team in suburban Atlanta in May spoke out this week for the first time to criticize police for aggressive tactics against their suicidal son.

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Andrew Messina was armed with a .357 Magnum when a sniper shot him inside his Towne Lake home in May. But the 16-year-old's parents hoped that police would send someone to calm the high school student who was threatening to kill himself after getting a poor grade that day. Instead, they saw a large deployment of heavily armed police descend on their home.


Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:16 pm to
Everybody loves a good win-win situation
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:19 pm to
SMH

Should be manslaughter charges against the LEOs. They knew the woman was threatening suicide and had a gun. They storm her apt and "feared for their lives". Send in trained professionals, not Neanderthals who can't do simple trigonometry.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
Suicide by cop !
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50041 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:54 pm to
suicide by cop isn't a new thing.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:56 pm to
Yea she was armed, but threatening only herself according to the article. Why send a SWAT team? This is a situation that needed deescalation and they brought a SWAT team

The article is so brief so there's either more to the story, or the cops fricked up by bringing a SWAT team.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41873 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:14 pm to

Serious question, was she endangering anyone?

I mean sure once the police entered her home she was armed amd dangerous, but if a sole person is threatening suicide, why go in if no one else is threatened?

98% of the time women are looking for attention.


Because some of these people when they don't get the reaction from the police they want (armed confrontation/SBC) will escalate the situation by threatening or hurting others to force the police's hand.

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92362 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Again, I refer to the key detail of the story....
Bro.

She was ready to commit suicide. Why the frick would they send SWAT? She needed help..

They literally sent the opposite of that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92362 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Because some of these people when they don't get the reaction from the police they want (armed confrontation/SBC) will escalate the situation by threatening or hurting others to force the police's hand.
We need more information.

Was there anyone else in the house? Did SWAT know she was armed?

If she was alone and they knew she was armed, they royally fricked up IMO. Did they not try to call her and let her talk to someone who specializes in suicide prevention?

If she kills herself she kills herself. Whatever. Can't save em all.

But if they just busted up in there and killed her without trying to save her, well then, that's just horrible.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14461 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:31 pm to
Got to be cheaper than physician assisted suicide after the deductible increases under Obamacare!
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Its much easier to just kill them instead of bringing them back alive. Its a matter of efficiency.


Funny you say this while quoting

quote:

This type of situation occurs several hundred times a month in the U.S. most don't make the news because the police departments send a couple of officers and mental health professionals


So 98% percent of the time shite works out without incident but you see an opportunity to make a blanket statement being negative.

And no, every police department doesn't have a mental health specialist on stand by 24/7 to be escorted in to negotiate with these type people.

You wanna talk about the problem with police? Let's go. A guy with minimal education, minimal training, and minimal pay is expected to be a marriage counselor, role model, Seal Team 6, and mental health professional along with multiple other suits they are supposed to wear. If you really believe these guys wanted to go in there and kill someone rather than resolve the situation peacefully and get her help then you are the one with a problem



Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:26 pm to
I can't help it; this story gave me a chuckle.

Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7236 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:46 pm to
Bet she won't try that again
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3397 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:48 pm to
She probably thought she'd be on LivePD but knew she fricked up when no camera crew showed up
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38577 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Again, I refer to the key detail of the story....
armed woman


That one word changes the whole dynamic of the story and you know it.

That's two words.
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