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re: Woman Shot, Killed After Aiming Gun at Biker She Intentionally Hit With Her Car
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:21 am to beauchristopher
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:21 am to beauchristopher
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Even if she made a mistake and even purposely hit them? If they are willing to go to her home what's to stop them from entering it.
Blast them. Light them up
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So even if she tapped them on purpose out of potential road rage she no longer has a right to defend herself against three guys chasing her down?
She does, but the story doesn’t read like they were threatening her. I mean, they were in the phone with cops the whole time.
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Again, he will always have the upper hand and knows he can chase down anyone who pisses him off, because even if a gun is pointed on him to leave, he has the upper hand and is willing to actually end it.
This is an emotionally charged lie based on the facts we know currently and looking at the situation.
This post was edited on 11/24/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:21 am to beauchristopher
Look, it is a terrible ending to a bad incident. No, they shouldn't have followed her to her home. No, she definitely shouldn't have come out with a gun. That ignited the already smoldering situation. Very sad outcome. I don't want to listen to someone getting gunned down. I am sure she had a second thought too late. Bad deal, two lives lost.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:22 am to Silver Buzzard
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I do seem to have an issue with three men against one pregnant woman.
It feels to me like you really don't like bikers. What kind of bikers were they? I'm guessing Harley based on the concealed carry but alot of GenZ crotch rocket riders CC too.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:23 am to Hangit
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, then got home, where she was safe inside. He was sitting quietly out front, with the witnesses, on the phone with 911. She came out to scream at them, then pointed a gun at him.
How do you know this part?
Also, did you see where she lived?
How is she safe inside with multiple people rolling up on her residence? The guy who shot her said others had guns as well. I wonder if it was the other guys with him?
How do you know he was sitting in his vehicle? He was in her yard when the police arrested him.
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She came out to scream at them
She came out to tell them to to leave. LOL at came to scream at them.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:23 am to Silver Buzzard
quote:Sure beats Riker's.
after she returned home from a hit and run crash
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:24 am to beauchristopher
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How is she safe inside with multiple people rolling up on her residence?
she's a damn sight safer inside than running outside pointing a gun at somebody.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:27 am to blueboy
Billy Badass Biker with his concealed carry wasn't going to take no shite from no woman. Had his armed buddy's there to back him up as well.
*In the video you can see his bike in the background. Parked in the grass. Harley/Indian type.
*In the video you can see his bike in the background. Parked in the grass. Harley/Indian type.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:30 am to tigerinthebueche
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Cause I’m voting to convict all three of them for murder and accessories to murder based on the info here
Then you're an idiot.
First of all, she intentionally struck one of them. She has most likely caused aggravated battery with a deadly weapon; at the very least, hit and run. The three bikers could have been following her to get the tag number. And for those saying the bikers were on her property; how do you know? They could have been on the public roadway in front of her house waiting for police to arrive.
But you're willing to convict based on the information available? There were Nazi drumhead tribunals with more credible convictions.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:31 am to Silver Buzzard
Looks like she fricked around and found out.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:31 am to cable
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If she was so scared WTF did she go outside her home to confront them with a fricking gun? She was trying to be a badass and like a lot of people have already said - she found out.
No doubt she probably thought she could get them to leave with a gun. Not saying it was smart, but I've seen people scare unwanted visitors with guns before. I don't agree with it at all. I also don't know if that justifies blasting them over attempting to defend their property.
And exactly what is wrong with being a badass? I don't agree with it, but it seems like most people on here are usually hard asses who feel like if someone runs up on their property then they are getting dealt with types.
Clearly she isn't the brightest or let her emotions get the best of her, but I still don't think they had a right to go to her home like that. She likely never thought they also had guns. Maybe she felt like she needed to be proactive. Maybe she felt she was about to get gang raped. Who knows. I don't agree with chasing people down to their homes.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:32 am to Silver Buzzard
quote:You're legit asking just about all the wrong questions.
have questions. Did these three men call the police as they were following her?
If they called the police and reported the hit and run and were following I still question them not waiting on them once she fled into her home. If they were following her and had not called the police I really have a problem.
You follow me home I will be blasting when I come out the door, if I don't shoot from inside. You follow my pregnant daughter home and kill her. I will massacre everyone in your family and you will get to watch.
I have question about three men against one pregnant librarian. She literally may have fled the scene out of fear.
The only question I care about here is why did she intentionally hit him with her car. Was there something that happened or that he did to make her fear for her life and do that. If yes and if that fear was legit, she was right, he was wrong, frick him. Put him under the jail.
If she wasn't within her right to intentionally hit him with her car, then this is on her. To each his own, but if someone hits you with a car on purpose, I don't take any issue to following that person to ensure they don't get away with that serious crime they just committed, so I don't really see the issue with following her. Then, she took it up a few steps further by coming out and pointing a gun, I fail to see any issue there in this 2nd hypothetical based on what we do know here.
quote:No, you wouldn't do any of that, but you already know that.
You follow my pregnant daughter home and kill her. I will massacre everyone in your family and you will get to watch.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:33 am to shel311
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If she wasn't within her right to intentionally hit him with her car
unless he was pointing a gun at her.... when would this be?
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:34 am to Beessnax
quote:Obviously his went a bit far, but this generally speaking is something everyone says and thinks they'd do and 99.99999999999999% don't do anything like this. Then everyone says they're the 0.0000000001%...but they're not.
I get the anger regarding the scenario you described but you have some issues if you truly feel this way. It's almost Thanksgiving, be happy and hug your family my man
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:35 am to Silver Buzzard
quote:That's not the "bottom line" that is your made up bottom line.
Bottomw line. Three men followed a prenant librarian to her home, and now she is dead. Apparently they did not call the police, and planned their own justice.
You don't know what their intention was in following her, but we do know she came out and pointed a gun at them, surely seems like she was now the aggressor twice.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:36 am to MorbidTheClown
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unless he was pointing a gun at her.... when would this be?
Are you just making shite up now? Nowhere has that even been hypothesized, much less reported.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:37 am to SoFla Tideroller
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First of all, she intentionally struck one of them.
I'd like to know what evidence they have of this. Billy Badass' 2 buddies?
Maybe she did. No one really knows for sure and it's comical that so many are taking the news report as absolute gospel.
Since Billy felt the need to kill her we'll never hear her side of it.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Are you just making shite up now? Nowhere has that even been hypothesized, much less reported.
wasn't referring to anything actually in this story.
i was replying to the guy saying something about her being within her rights to intentionally hit someone with her car.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:39 am to Silver Buzzard
Obviously don't know all the details but I can claim these facts:
- following a person who committed a hit and run is not a crime
- entering on somebody's property is not in and of itself a crime
- pointing a gun at someone on your property without provocation can be a crime
- shooting someone who pointed a gun at you was just shown to be a valid form of self defense
Given these facts and the presence of witnesses for the defense I would predict a strong case of self defense either at trial or otherwise.
- following a person who committed a hit and run is not a crime
- entering on somebody's property is not in and of itself a crime
- pointing a gun at someone on your property without provocation can be a crime
- shooting someone who pointed a gun at you was just shown to be a valid form of self defense
Given these facts and the presence of witnesses for the defense I would predict a strong case of self defense either at trial or otherwise.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 8:39 am to Oilfieldbiology
just wondering when that would be.
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