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re: Woman finds random family living in house that she is about to sell; squatters or scammed?

Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:58 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184589 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:58 am to
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Well thats fricking stupid.



Louisiana has that same law but it is hard to actually obtain legal ownership. It's called adverse possession. All the homeowner has to do is acknowledge they are there and refute it and the clock will stop ticking on the time frame. After that, simply start the legal eviction process which will cost the homeowner a few thousand. It sucks but tenants almost have more rights than owners no matter if they are there legally or not.

At least it's not in Cali. The laws in Cali make it where I would never own rentals there.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 7:59 am
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:00 am to
This has happened several times in a Georgia and the owner is going to have to go to court and get an order to evict the family. The family will eventually have to leave. No one will find a person in Texas to charge, only a PO Box.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16272 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:04 am to
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WTF is up with that squatter law? Why in the hell is that a law?


Most states have laws like that. It has to be for a ridiculously long amount of time, usually 5-7 years, and they have to be open and notorious (AKA receiving mail, listing it as their home address) for the law to be upheld. Even then, it is still very rare for a court to uphold it.
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 8:07 am
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16272 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:05 am to
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At least it's not in Cali. The laws in Cali make it where I would never own rentals there.


This is true. There have been cases of people renting Air BnB's for 1 night, refusing to leave, and basically getting to live rent free for LONG periods of time due to retarded California laws.
Posted by GAAtty70
Member since Nov 2015
905 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:10 am to
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But why should he have to legally take it back? It's the owner's damn property. Can an attorney elaborate on the purpose and reasoning behind squatter's rights?


This is first year law school common law stuff from Property class. The concept is called Adverse Possesion. The idea behind it is that while the law encourages private land ownership, it also encourages property owners to exercise control and oversight of their possessions.

If a landowner does not have the time or inclination to make sure they inspect their property at least once in 7 years or 20 depending, the law is that maybe it could be put to better use.

It really is very rare that someone in this day and age could take adverse possession of anything.
Posted by KingBarkus
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
8436 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:18 am to
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My business is maintaining repo homes for banks. This happens a lot more than people realize. It's usually illegal aliens taken advantage of too because they have cash but no credit to rent legit places.

The scam is people in areas drive around and find vacant homes. They then somehow get power and water activated then break in and change one lock to working keys. They post it on craigslist and get a large deposit and the first month or two rent and vanish.


This has happened in Vegas too. I've read horror stories of owners trying to get squatters evicted from their property. The squatters can be bold too akin to rubbing the owners faces in it.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6314 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:46 am to
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It really is very rare that someone in this day and age could take adverse possession of anything


So it sounds like this is an antiquated practice. Though possession will in all likelihood not be gained, I find it infuriating that a vigilant and diligent property owner is still punished (attorney's fees) by no fault of their own because of a few trespassers.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 8:57 am to
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attorney's fees


That is the worst part. The money that the legal owner will have to spend to reacquire her property just isn't right.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:02 am to
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“They tried to unlawfully throw us out by legally evicting us,”
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:03 am to
I don't care is someone squats for 50 years in a home receiving mail and paying bills there, if they are there without permission then it should never be theirs by law.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17854 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:14 am to
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if they are there without permission then it should never be theirs by law.


Posted by mastersleestak
Foul's Creche
Member since Dec 2014
426 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 9:25 am to
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Next thing we know, we’re being thrown out at 11:30 at night with two children....


quote:

Everman, however, isn’t budging.


Well, which is it?

Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:00 am to
lol I can't argue with you in that.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 10:02 am to
Happens quite a bit in Atlanta, People put up craigslist rentals on houses they know are vacant and for sale.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17180 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:31 am to
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Yes they are. Craigslist scammers should have the book thrown at them


That's where they ran the scam list for my house. but to Craigslist's credit they removed the listing with in minutes of me reporting it. I filed reports with the AG's office and the FBI.

Problem is 90% of these scams come out of Africa, mine was traced to Nairobi, FBI said they wouldn't go any further. Gave me a letter to present to anyone that came look to move into the house and claimed to have paid deposits. Bad thing these jokers had my name and was using it as the contact person to make the deals with. All because Zillow has no security on their page and the scum lifted the pictures and description right off the site. with the address it wasn't to hard to locate who owned the property (How they got my name) luckily all my financials are secure and didn't get hacked.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15818 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:38 am to
Repo houses usually use locks that are keyed with the same 10-20 key codes. I have a set of repo house keys that will unlock almost all of them.

Most of the repos I deal with are in Memphis so the door is usually kicked in and all the plumbing and electrical wiring has been stolen
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16587 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:46 am to
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They then somehow get power and water activated

Seems like a lot of this could be stopped right here, but I'm sure the power/water companies just want a deposit check from anyone.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53599 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:53 am to
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do you own something as valuable as a home and you do not check on it enough to know if someone has move into it and is living there?



You buy another house, and spend 3 weeks setting up and settling down your move there.

We are talking about a period of weeks in the scenario, not months. Hell, some people take vacations that long. Also, their current home may not simply have been across town.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:55 am to
Sounds like the episode of Shameless I watched yesterday.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36663 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 11:58 am to
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“They tried to unlawfully throw us out by legally evicting us,


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