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re: Without human intervention how big would these fires get?

Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by Morty
Member since Feb 2018
2252 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 11:08 pm to
I’m not sure that humans do anything for these big fires. Those buckets of water they dropped from an air tank or do nothing these fires burn themselves out or they get lucky and get a little rain or the wind dies down
Posted by mailman
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
6143 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:25 am to
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I wonder how wide spread the fires would get with out human intervention. Do you think it could engulf an entire state?


Thats a great question, this is the ot that i miss. Im sure in the west during dry seasons they wead spread across states. But im also wondering if there would be as many forest fires if we were there? I know we've brought several species of trees and bushes that didnt exist in southern California.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:33 am to
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Nature did a great job at regulation for billions of years


Generally correct. However, North American fire-maintained ecosystems are relatively recent...mostly evolved since last glacial retreat +- 10,000 years ago.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:37 am to
There would never be fires if not for humans
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26512 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:38 am to
Why did they give Smokey fingernails? Weird.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:52 am to
Looks like he’s pointing at his next rape victim
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:06 am to
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I know we've brought several species of trees and bushes that didnt exist in southern California.


Eucalyptus trees are a big issue. They were imported from Australia because they are fast growing and drought tolerant, but the burn like a torch.
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Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:07 am to
They need to import some koala bears now.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25152 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:18 am to
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Park service on that one.



Can't do it on their own. Add to that a lot of enviro weenies are in the park service now.

We have definitely lost the momentum plus its a bitch to hunt out west. There are large areas where the deadfalls are so bad just walking it is a pain.

Posted by Flynn2Bryd
Member since Sep 2015
607 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:33 am to
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All because we didn’t listen to Al Gore and his inconvenient truth


Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12200 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:37 am to
Today's LATimes has a good long article about how Paradise has had a history of huge fires around it (just in a hundred years or so), how they had planned exoduses but this came up too fast, how there are only four roads into or out of town and all four are through areas known to burn, and how they were starting to get their planning done.

What needs to be done is a discussion of rebuilding. the same discussion as barrier island seaside builders face.

The fire maps of northern CA are scarey when it comes to how many fires have already happened.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28261 posts
Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:40 am to
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The wacky Governor of CA got on the TV this morning and blamed the entire fire on Global Warming and Pres Trump's policies. I couldn't believe he went there. He said that the droughts will continue across the US and become a threat to human life. All as I was driving through a torrential downpour in Baton Rouge.

aside from trying to politicize it, with the Trump policy talk, which i don't think he should have done, he's not exactly wrong....
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