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re: With Car Dealerships exploiting consumers by selling well over MSRP

Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:29 pm to
Because the dealerships paid off the politicians over the years to make direct vehicle sales illegal in most states.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 5:34 pm to
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Talked to a Chevy dealer owner a few months ago. He said he has made more money in the last 2 years that he has in 25 years.


I have a Ford dealer friend who told me he prays every night that Ford NEVER solves the chip shortage.

The 2 biggest expenses in a dealership new car department is floor plan interest and advertising. The chip shortage eliminated both while increasing the dealer profit per car. They are selling less cars but they having more gross profit (before expenses).

At the same time they are having to spend a lot of money (over 100K) to upgrade for electric vehicles that they do not expect to sell here in the south.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18910 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:09 pm to
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Went to 3 dealers over the weekend and left pissed off at all 3. Charging $8k over MSRP because there are ……….less intellectual people that will pay it.
Damn. This is rich.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58203 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:19 pm to
You don’t have to buy the car you god damned idiot
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11287 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:27 pm to
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I think all but 11 states prohibits direct sales


Those laws need to be changed (we the people and all that BS).
Posted by jts1207
Member since Apr 2018
927 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:02 pm to
People always lie about how little they pay for their car and how much they paid for their house. Dealers are making record profits while selling a record low number of cars. OT always makes me laugh
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49183 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:06 pm to
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You don’t have to buy the car you god damned idiot




But he's an intellectual.
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2386 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:13 pm to
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And would have to open repair/servicing facilities, hire staff and provide benefits to man them, not be able to use the dealer as a middleman in a dispute, etc.
or think of this.

They could contract with certified private repair centers.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29859 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:19 pm to
Orlando. I will order from Louisiana and pick up though if you know somewhere. Can visit friends and family.
Posted by Shunface
Lafayette County Detention Center
Member since Jan 2013
4581 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:32 pm to
There’s no new cars right now. Bodies are built but no chips to complete. Back around December for every day you waited it added a month to projected delivery.

Why I can sell my 2017 Tahoe now for more than I paid for it.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:35 pm to
Dealerships have had laws written to keep them in existence. They would be long diminished if it was LAW in most states that they are required to exist. They say it protects the consumer, but it protects the dealer.

There is NO reason for the games dealerships try to play. I simply walk out if there are games but some don't even know they are getting played.
Posted by Bigryno7
Nashville
Member since Jun 2009
1458 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:38 pm to
I hate the dealership just like the next guy, however it’s also not fair to them they have no supply of cars to sell that are new. They have to make their money somehow. They also have to keep the lights on.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29859 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:40 pm to
……..they are all making record profits. Lol
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1215 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 7:48 pm to
The problem lies between the ears of American consumers and the over supply of money. As long as Americans have to have a new vehicle every two or three years the dealership has all the advantages in these situations. Get a good mechanic and make your car run a couple of hundred thousand miles and quit buying shite that's engineered to breakdown when the odometer turns to six digits.

Once this happens, the dealers will be begging you to buy a car.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45737 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:01 pm to
Texas' auto dealer lobby is strong in Texas.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10849 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:11 pm to
If you want to get really mad, consider the fact the dealership gets about 40% of the car sale price. That burns my arse (Just like a flame about 3 feet off the ground)

We just bought a Tahoe and an Accord. Paid Sticker for both and felt totally violated.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:21 pm to
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…I think its likely MSRP just goes up to meet the demand price.


You are just now figuring this out, but.....

[quote]Charging $8k over MSRP because there are less intellectual people that will pay it. /quote]



Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2945 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:32 pm to
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the dealership gets about 40% of the car sale price.


? So a dealer makes 14k on a 35k accord? I don't think so.
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1444 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:36 pm to
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If you want to get really mad, consider the fact the dealership gets about 40% of the car sale price


That's the dumbest thing on TD for a long time.

Dealers in the US make a net profit of about 3-4% of sales on a good year. Trust me most people could not make it in that environment. You would be a lot better off just investing in farm land.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2945 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 9:50 pm to
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Dealers in the US make a net profit of about 3-4% of sales on a good year. Trust me most people could not make it in that environment. You would be a lot better off just investing in farm land.

I don't know any poor dealer principles LOL. My buddy is GM at a German franchise in Florida, gets paid off net profit and makes BANK. like pushing 7 figures.
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